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IMHO, the typical Jaguar owner wants a luxury car and therefore would select an automatic transmission. BMW attracts a different type of buyer and offering the manual makes much more sense.
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My prediction is that 35% of the Z4s will have a 3rd pedal my end of 2023, and 50% will by the end of 2024. This car will specifically pull buyers BECAUSE of the manual, driver car cred. (Still needs an S58).
This is a small, nimble, 2-seater. BMW was a little confused, going after the F-Type in the design phase, but that's not what this car is at all. Maybe that's what BMW should have gone after as an Z5-8, but it's stable-mate pushed it downmarket. The Z4s nearest competition is the Boxster, which checks off all the enthusiast creds that BMW misses. I had a GTS 4.0 Boxster pull along side my M3 the other day... and I would have gone straight to the Porsche dealer to order one if I didn't know they wouldn't try to shake me down for 40k ADM.
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Probably just a typo in the future cars post, but it does say March of 2024, not 2023….
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There was already speculation that it meant "March 24th", not "March of 2024". It seems very likely that the manual will come along with the LCI.
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It's kind of depressing. I'd pay Porsche to put another 40k of engineering into their cars - but I have literally zero interest in giving a dealership thousands of dollars just for them... existing.
That's almost exclusively the reason I haven't jumped to Porsche and keep going back to BMW.
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I'm still predicting 2023 on this unless the plan is to pair up with the GRMN Supra for an actual Z4M as a parting gift to the roadster world... but, I just don't see BMW investing in that. But if they do... BMW TAKE MY MONEY, I'LLL WIRE IT RIGHT NOW.
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This is fantastic news! I was all set to buy a Porsche Boxster with manual transmission, but am now shifting (no pun intended) my plan to the Z4 M40i with 6MT when it's released next year. Can't wait!!!
The Boxster is a great roadster, of course, but they are impossible to get, ridiculously overpriced, and no wireless CarPlay, which is irksome. Besides, I've always been a BMW guy and love the look of the Z4, so I'm really psyched to be able to have my cake and eat it too! |
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To put back on track, my salesman is watching for any information on 2023 Z4 M40's and if manuals are immediately available, I may switch my order to a 23 w/manual. My guess is that he won't know anything before I have to take delivery. |
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I do not have wireless charging or the digital key either. CarPlay is not affected.
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Be interesting to see what the take rate is. Don't see dealers ordering them for lot cars. Special orders by buyers will have to support the MT on their own.
Not much development cost as the B58 has already had an MT behind it. Personally my sports car is an MT as is my pickup truck. Have no interest in a Z4 MT. Its a quick & agile GT car don't see taking that away & slowing the process down.
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Unfortunately, none of the articles posted indicate that a manual transmission is on the way - just ‘highly likely’. Seeming based on the fact that the Supra is getting one (different market segment).
I also can’t see how converting a BMW driver from one model to another makes any financial sense. Is there going to be an increased cost? As already noted, any higher in price and you are pushing Porsche money. The MT Supra costs more than the better equipped Auto and has limited options. It’s also a lot less money than a well equipped Z4. Don’t get me wrong, I like a MT. But it’s complaining that a MacBook you want to buy doesn’t have a CD player, so you won’t get it. You won’t miss it, even if you think you will. As such, if you want a manual Z4, buy a Supra.
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