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      01-19-2016, 03:45 AM   #45
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Looks like a Honda to me....
...a S2000 in fact.

Soft tops look really ugly when they are up. Hopefully this is the Z2 prototype. We need a proper Z5 coupe version but I want BMW DNA not a Toyota. I will be likely switching to Porsche (GT4) or AMG (C63 coupe) anyway.
I believe the article stated that this is the Z5 prototype. Nobody has really mentioned a Z2 prototype since way, way back. It also doesn't look like a S2000. It is far more bigger.
Also, as far as the BMW vs Toyota DNA, what you want and what you get are two different things. It is already common knowledge that Toyota and BMW have been working on two shared platforms. From the info we have so far, the Z5 and Supra share the same platform----you know that sexy FT-1 concept that Toyota had? That supposedly shows what the Supra may look like (with toned down styling cues).

If you are likely going to be switching to Porsche or Merc then why complain?
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      01-19-2016, 04:08 AM   #46
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Looks like a Honda to me....
...a S2000 in fact.

Soft tops look really ugly when they are up. Hopefully this is the Z2 prototype. We need a proper Z5 coupe version but I want BMW DNA not a Toyota. I will be likely switching to Porsche (GT4) or AMG (C63 coupe) anyway.
Z2 is dead as a vert. Coupe yes, vert no.

Z1 Z3 Z5 Z7 will be Convertibles.

Z2 Z4 Z6 Z8 will be Coupes.
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      01-19-2016, 04:39 AM   #47
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I understand why they would go back with rag tops, but rag tops is just so ugly....
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I've alwys liked the s2000!
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      01-19-2016, 05:04 AM   #49
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I understand why they would go back with rag tops, but rag tops is just so ugly....
Something so classic is only old to those who do not understand why simplicity outweighs any other logic.
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      01-19-2016, 06:30 AM   #50
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Hopefully waiting for another e85/e86 lineup. Nothing against convertibles, but they have never been my thing, which is why I'm not too keen on e89. And if they bring back a legit m coupe, I will do my best to convince the wife it's a necessity and I desperately need it...or else I'll leave her
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      01-19-2016, 07:15 AM   #51
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Give me back the hard top please!
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A folding carbon fiber hardtop just like the Z4's or similar would cost a ton of money. And then that would be transferred to the customer. And then you'd pissed because this theoretical car would cost a lot more than a Z4 hardtop due to the carbon fiber and then you and others would complain and asked why didn't they use a soft top instead.
I have never complained about the price of my Z4. Out of the 7 Bmws I have owned it's been the one I have kept the longest.

I guess I will just keep it forever. Maybe add an M4 coupe to my garage.
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I don't own a Z4 but I think it gets an unnecessary bad rap, BMW never really pushed the car very hard IMO. If they made (or requested) dealers to display it as a halo car, I think it would sell better. I also don't believe I've ever seen a Z4 advertisement, paper, billboards, TV ads, etc.

At any rate, I hope the new Z5 and upcoming Z3 and Z1 are smashing successes!
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      01-19-2016, 08:57 AM   #54
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So im guessing fwd by next gen with a horrible numb eps?? No match for the porcher...as usual. I can tell you right now how it drives. Nice weight distribution. Steering heavy and numb. Very comfortable ride. No match for cayman/boxter...even ttrs will probably be a better drivers car than this. No surprises from bmw in the dynamics department. I am sure it wont tempt me to trade my gorgeous z4 m coup
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      01-19-2016, 09:06 AM   #55
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I don't own a Z4 but I think it gets an unnecessary bad rap, BMW never really pushed the car very hard IMO. If they made (or requested) dealers to display it as a halo car, I think it would sell better. I also don't believe I've ever seen a Z4 advertisement, paper, billboards, TV ads, etc.

At any rate, I hope the new Z5 and upcoming Z3 and Z1 are smashing successes!
I see your point. Many of bmw dealers here where i live but non of them display Z4 even they have lot of display space. Sometime 2 of 5er.
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      01-19-2016, 09:39 AM   #56
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Honestly this just makes me appreciate my E85 M Roadster that much more.
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Unhappy Z4

I'm still not a big fan of the name especially even numbers are now supposed to represent the sporty coupe lines in BMW. Z4 makes more sense than Z5 IMO.
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I didn't know Honda and BMW are working together to make a Z2k
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I like it. It's proportioned very well for a modern car, and it reminds me a bit of the S2000.
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      01-19-2016, 11:07 AM   #61
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All I see in that profile shot is a large S2000. I kind of dig it.
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Finally! Can't wait to see and learn more fast model needs 6mt this time around ffs

Soft top provides a weight advantage, but the more important benefit is space IMO. The hard top takes up a good portion of the trunk when lowered. The soft top in the E85 doesn't impact the trunk at all whether it's up or down.
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The price has to be right. The Z5 better look as good as the F Type if the goal is to make an expensive weekend car. It must handle like the BMWs of old and be pretty quick as well. MT will be a must. I actually like the look of the Z4, but the Z5 will have to be a little more manly looking for guys to want to buy it.
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I have never complained about the price of my Z4. Out of the 7 Bmws I have owned it's been the one I have kept the longest.

I guess I will just keep it forever. Maybe add an M4 coupe to my garage.
That's good. Now think about if that folding hardtop was all carbon fiber, and some of the support/strut components were as well. Think of the premium in cost, especially for replacement parts, or paint or repainting it. All the wear and tear. Because as it is, I don't think that there is a carbonfiber folding hardtop in production. And there must be a reason why.

I'll say this though, I think that the Z4 should have just come with a fixed roof with the same look, with a ragtop option.

It would have looked beastly as an M coupe, like a toned down version of the S4 race car.
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Well I would be lying if I didn't say I was curious to see what they come up with. Soft top=lighter, hard top =rigidity when top is up... And like someone has already mentioned MT would be a must
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Nice V8, probably not! prototype does look advanced though, perhaps the anniversary reveal?
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