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Originally Posted by Joekerr
I'm not sure I follow the first point - were you suggesting pictures should not be allowed? Or just that the two data points are not comparable?
I do tend to agree with your second point though - there are some extremely dumb humans out there who have no business carrying because I think they are dumb enough to use it, which means they go to jail, which means the taxpayers pay to support them, which doesn't seem fair to taxpayers. But given it is covered under the Second Amendment, not much you can do about these humans.
Plus, I think there are certain places where firearms can be prohibited - the White House for one example. No need for a firearm there by Joe Public.
On the flip side, I also understand the argument that an armed person is better able to protect him / herself against a criminal. I think the problem I would have is always second guessing myself in that circumstance as to whether I legally COULD shoot that person (if I were American) and that hesitation might be fatal to someone else or me. But certainly I agree with the point that criminals do not follow laws, therefore, outlawing guns will not prevent them from using them. So there is no point in outlawing guns.
While I enjoy using firearms, I struggle daily with whether I'd prefer to be allowed to carry up here, or keep existing laws. I really don't know which is better. Certainly when I'm out in the woods I'd feel more comfortable carrying for wildlife, but I've never had a situation where I felt uncomfortable in public or in any danger. Plus, even if I could carry, would I? I would imagine it is not always comfortable.
Anyways, I think people think you are a proponent of outlawing firearms, but I don't know that you are really saying that. And aren't you the one that asked about the possibility of getting a firearm for a few weeks while on vacation in USA and then selling it? And that you are reasonably proficient in their use?
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Maybe I hadnt explain this too less but I was only talking about the two data points, pictures are not affected.
Oh, btw. I dont care about the White House, as a foreign I would never have access to it, but what about kindergardens, schools, hospitals and so on? Arent they worth it to be seen as weaponfree areas too? The reality says no, enough amok and shoot outs were happen.
Your "flip sided" point of view isnt really acceptable for me but this would lead into a endless spiral, which is started by "If only law enforcers are authorized to wear a gun, the rest of the crowd has to fight with sticks" and ends with the (probably) typical american answer "I demand to own and wear a gun because I can". So lets not hop into that train and let us deal with the actual situation.
Aside from that I possess a legal weapon owner card here but that means not, that I am a proponent for outlawing gun wear. My question was in that way, that I dont know the US-rules for buying guns as a foreign person. Following how about to buy one legal and sell it after the holiday. Thats not possible and end of the show.
The question should tell you more about thinking of public safeness for tourists across the states by travelling abroad v/s nearly everyone is allowed to buy and wear a gun and uses it for crime against other people, regardless of color and status.