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Originally Posted by Clark_Kent
Most folks cannot see beyond BMW, it's their North Star. We're on a BMW forum afterall so this isn't terribly surprising. If folks are challenging the Porsche value proposition (which I don't agree with btw), what about BMW? It's a shell of what it used to be and the grift is apparent. Their cars have gotten very expensive in short order and what are you getting for that? You're getting a bloated, overweight automobile, with an obscene and unnecessary amount of technology with a severely compromised sensory experience. They're hardly making the ultimate driving machine, not even close. It's wild to me the G80 M3 Comp is touching $90K decently optioned and that's without carbon buckets and ceramic brakes. The entry level X3 moderately optioned is around $60K. Even through evolution Porsche has maintained the integrity of the brand. With Porsche at least you know exactly what you're getting, and if you don't it's clearly not for you.
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they may be bloated and not as connected as they used to be, but the BMW DNA is still there, go drive an audi/mercedes and the comparable bmw in the range and you can tell the difference in pure driving enjoyment and connection
if you value driving enjoyment and connection with the car, bmw still overs value over other comparably priced brands