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      12-06-2020, 08:09 PM   #163
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Originally Posted by antzcrashing View Post
Every 747 max was grounded until Nov 18. Maybe it was overblown, but sentiment was enough for that to happen. Sentiment matters
The other side of the coin is that Airbus has been doing far higher levels of automation for far longer, and done well. They too had a few accidents, although one of the worst was "showing off" the airplane for a demonstration, but they have a long history of doing it all successfully. Read about their flight control "laws" and how it works. It's not "flying" as most of us learned. Most of the aerodynamics and flight control movements we learned go right out the window in an Airbus.

Boeing is relatively new to this, although MCAS has been in other products, like the C-17.

Boeing's learning curve may have been steeper as far as flight control fly-by-wire automation, but the bigger problems appeared to be cost-cutting and disregarding safety, such as AOA disagreements and what it should do in those cases. Europe has mandated there be 3 AOA sensors, one of which may be "synthetic" based on groundspeed and other inputs, but to have the system just go into full stall-protection "dive at the ground"-mode due to ONE sensor without an AOA disagree was a very poor design.

Some of these concepts, like stick PUSHERS, have been used on these aircraft for decades and decades...
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