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      12-07-2020, 07:39 AM   #28
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Based on how Russell was able to get to the front several times during the race, and given his relative inexperience, it's evident to me that most of Hamilton's talent is actually the car. Even though Russell didn't finish P1, he was the clear winner of the race. Imagine if as Hamilton has, Russell had a few years experience in the car, he'd be winning championships left and right.

McLaren knows how to build race cars like they do street cars. Hamilton is a great driver, but he's winning because he has a superior car. Put him in a Red Bull, he'd be on par with Verstappen.
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Maybe take away the Verstappen as an example, but the point still holds, there is definitely talent out there on par with HAM, that just don't have the right set of wheels. Not that this hasn't always been the case in F1, but at least in the analog days (MT, fewer electronics) the driver was more of a variable. Now you have people riding HAM's nuts, but is he really that good? Russell's performance this weekend definitely serves as a counter that it's HAM's talent that got him where he is.
This is an interesting point of view that actually belies the facts. Here are two videos for you to watch. One is the 2009 season recap and the 2006 Turkish GP. HAMs talent is apparent in both. I have also included an interview by Paddy Lowe who has worked with more WDCs than you can shake a stick at. Do you honestly believe that he has lucked into 7 titles? It's absolutely insane to believe that.

Are you going to take one data point and weigh it more heavily than 14 years of excellence in F1 and several more in the lesser formulae?





https://www.planetf1.com/news/paddy-...lton-analysis/
Not saying HAM is not talented, just saying if a comparatively amateur driver can take his car to P1 the first time out, TO ME this speaks volumes about one of two things, either Russell is a talent the likes of which we've never seen or the car he's provided with is mechanically superior to every other car on the field. TO ME, it's likely the latter. We can go back and forth, but without first hand knowledge and experience there are no facts to belie, each of us is stating an opinion. I'm not as hardcore a fan of F1 as many on this forum, including yourself, nor do I show bias for any driver, regardless of possible conflicting evidence. However, let's not make opinions facts.
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