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      06-26-2020, 09:58 AM   #88
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Originally Posted by B6T View Post
Countless people bemoaning Toyota's decision to carry-over the GR series V6 which on paper has competitive stats... and yet no mention of the reliability issues of the N54, N55, etc. engines that BMW used in the 3-series, or the costs related to those that are borne by owners.

A GR-series V6 will need only basic maintenance (oil changes, plugs, filters) and fuel to run to 300,000km. How many BMW engines can even come close to that level of reliability? Lexus/Toyota customers want that reliability, and don't care so much about 0-60 times or overall HP number, compared to BMW drivers who are more obsessed with stats and tolerate more frequent visits to the service department and out-of-warranty repair costs.



Not true. The RAV actually came to market with a new engine, transmission, differential, and on an entirely new platform. The engine stats remained the same (2.5L 2AR to 2.5L A25A) but it's a different engine with better tech. Transmission went from 6 speed to 8 speed. And the rear diff has torque vectoring.

The problem with the car enthusiast crowd is that we grossly over-estimate our importance to the car industry and live in a bubble where we think we know more than the hundreds of people who work for these companies and whose life's work is figuring out how to sell the most cars possible...
The N54 and N55 are no longer made... the B58 is... which is borderline bulletproof and has cooling, performance and refinement that Lexus could dream of... and by no means is that motor competitive vs the GR V6... it makes another 80hp and 1.5 x the torque at a lower rpm... even better questions... who keeps their Lexus these days to 200K miles... judging by the ones on cars.com very few.
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