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Originally Posted by NYG
Ehh, let's not get crazy here.
McLaren won 8 across multiple eras against some of the toughest competition out there from inside and outside of the team.
Mercedes created a masterpiece in one era that was untouchable for 99% of the time.
Mercedes hasn't earned the right to be in the same sentence as McLaren as far as legacy goes.
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Mclaren has time on its side to win 8, it is much harder to win in a smaller period of time versus when you have alot of time. Look at ferrari they've been in f1 since 1950 which is 72 years and have 16 championships during that time. Impressive but they have had a long time to do it and plenty of time to recover between losses. Mercedes rejoined in 2010 and in the last 12 years have won 8 constructors titles - that's a 67% win rate vs 22% of ferrari.
Mercedes has shown what it is capable of:
1) creating the fastest f1 car in history in the W11
2) being first to create a 50% thermal efficent PU, and pioneering alot of tech used in f1 engines (prechamber igniton, split turbo, cooled plenumn etc).
3) Pioneered so many innovations and ina short period of time: squatting suspension, DAS, (braum which is now mercedes made the double diffuser), slotted wheel spacers to cool the brakes, wheel rims with bumps on it to increase cooling surface area to manage hot tires. The list doesn't end.
Mclaren has done alot of cool things like the f duct and second brake pedal, but that was over a long period of their existence and nothing to the scale mercedes has done and in such a short period of time.
In terms of legacy, past acomplishments don't really count anymore for the current era of F1. So despite mclaren's very good past, no one from that era still works for them anymore, and they are not even close to the level of mercedes on engineering.