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heres the thing though.. with photography its sometimes better to get the best you can afford rather than what your skill can actually use at the moment. if you can afford a L lens, you'll keep it for pretty much forever if you picked the right focal length and aperture for your needs... same with bodies. a 5d mkii might be a tad excessive for the needs of just a hobbyist, but if they want to do portraits, weddings and stuff like that its a great choice that you wont get tired of soon (well, until the 1dmk4 is announced lol)
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