[floridaorange]

That makes sense. I've been lifting since 1999 (neglecting the lower body serious compound exercises). I was told to not worry about legs, but that's where the size comes from I've learned about 4 yrs ago... But you're right, just give it time and stay consistent and screw the rest.... no way I'm going unnatural, just doesn't fit my mindset. I also do need to increase calories... The problem is - I don't like how bloated I look when I over eat all the time, but I reckon that's part of the deal. Only way to look big and shredded without being a bigtime gym rat (unbalanced life) is roids.... I need to come to grips with that lol. In the meantime - I will play with my protein intake as well.