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      02-22-2020, 03:48 PM   #80
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Originally Posted by heavyD^2 View Post
There's no magic in Toyota's reliability. They have been using largely the same drivetrains for decades. The recently retired MZ engine dates back to the early 90's and the current GR engine used in most Toyotas and Lexus vehicles dates back to 2002. If BMW kept offering vehicles with the same engines they did 15-20 years ago they would be out of business today as buyers of this class expect the latest and greatest in powerplants.
Toyota's quality distinction didn't just happen yesterday, it's been decades... when those engines were new. There goes your magic.

Toyota puts a lot of emphasis on quality, it's ingrained in their culture. In developing the Z4/Supra, it was reported that BMW was surprised at how extensive Toyota's quality controls were, taking every bit down to a fastener or rivet and put it through stringent quality control.

Thus, while it's true that longevity makes for more opportunities for better quality, that alone doesn't nearly explain it. It's not that simple.
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