[Westside Guy]

Originally Posted by stlcdr

When I purchased my Z4, both the salesperson and the financial person insisted that the car came with run-flat tires, to the point that they were telling me the dos and don'ts with such tires.

They were so convinced, that I had to go double check that they hadn't actually replaced the tires with run-flats.

Maybe they were equipped with run-flat brains?

[GerryC]

Originally Posted by Wynnsiensheng

I guess all dealers will eventually receive official notification from BMW, until that time some dealers will be more on the ball than others. At least, that’s how it seems to me.

Many of the dealers salespersons only pay attention to what is in their computer system. They pay no attention to the trade media.

Based on the announcement, sometime in January BMW will issue an updated pricing and ordering guide for the G29 (See the sticky thread at the top of the forum for the ones from last June covering the July 2024 MY SOP.) That gets published about the same time their system gets updated.

Hopefully the sales manager will highlight the updates to his team, but I expect some won't get it until a customer pushes them to actually look it up.

[Wynnsiensheng]

Originally Posted by RigaTony1982

I would say 95% of the time, I know more about the vehicles I’m looking at than the salespeople do.

Hence the role of the genius I guess.
Sales people smooth the process but for me have very little influence on my buying decision.

[Wynnsiensheng]

Originally Posted by stlcdr

When I purchased my Z4, both the salesperson and the financial person insisted that the car came with run-flat tires, to the point that they were telling me the dos and don'ts with such tires.

They were so convinced, that I had to go double check that they hadn't actually replaced the tires with run-flats.

I got the same story from a sales person. Only found out otherwise from the genius on the day I picked up my car

[Wynnsiensheng]

Originally Posted by GerryC

Many of the dealers salespersons only pay attention to what is in their computer system. They pay no attention to the trade media.

Based on the announcement, sometime in January BMW will issue an updated pricing and ordering guide for the G29 (See the sticky thread at the top of the forum for the ones from last June covering the July 2024 MY SOP.) That gets published about the same time their system gets updated.

Hopefully the sales manager will highlight the updates to his team, but I expect some won't get it until a customer pushes them to actually look it up.

I think a lot of sales people are only interested in what is sitting in their showroom ready to sell. Anything else is too abstract for them to be interested in.

[GerryC]

Originally Posted by Wynnsiensheng

I think a lot of sales people are only interested in what is sitting in their showroom ready to sell. Anything else is too abstract for them to be interested in.

They're playing the short game. If they sell you a car off the lot, he gets his commission that day. If he doesn't sell you that car, there's a good possibility you won't be back and he just wasted half an hour dealing with you. They don't want you to order a car as it's more work for them (sales doesn't want to spec orders, it's easier to let the inventory manager do it) and it will be 2-3 months or more before the sale closes and they get paid.

Good salesman, and I've had the good fortune to deal with a few, work to get you what you want. They get my business. When I run into one that's pushing whatever he's got and doesn't listen to me, I walk.

[Wynnsiensheng]

Originally Posted by GerryC

They're playing the short game. If they sell you a car off the lot, he gets his commission that day. If he doesn't sell you that car, there's a good possibility you won't be back and he just wasted half an hour dealing with you. They don't want you to order a car as it's more work for them (sales doesn't want to spec orders, it's easier to let the inventory manager do it) and it will be 2-3 months or more before the sale closes and they get paid.

Good salesman, and I've had the good fortune to deal with a few, work to get you what you want. They get my business. When I run into one that's pushing whatever he's got and doesn't listen to me, I walk.

I guess to some, maybe most, it’s just a job. 🤷‍♂️

[rwemersonrw]

Wonder why they never made this an M

[mdoneinvt]

I wonder if they will start it as a 2024 model for a few months before switching to 2025? If so i might just have to order sooner to get one of the very few 2024 manuals made.

[GerryC]

Originally Posted by mdoneinvt

I wonder if they will start it as a 2024 model for a few months before switching to 2025? If so i might just have to order sooner to get one of the very few 2024 manuals made.

It's possible it will be a 2025 MY. They did it with the E89. The 2016 MY started in March 2015.

[thereef510]

will 2025 be the last MY that the z4 is presently slated to be in production till? or will there be a MY 2026 too?

[PLF69]

Originally Posted by GerryC

It's possible it will be a 2025 MY. They did it with the E89. The 2016 MY started in March 2015.

They just did it last year with the X5, when they released the LCI the switch was made around April.

[Argo]

Originally Posted by thereef510

will 2025 be the last MY that the z4 is presently slated to be in production till? or will there be a MY 2026 too?

Production is scheduled to continue through March 2026, so I'm pretty sure those last ones will be 2026MY cars.

[GerryC]

Originally Posted by Argo

Production is scheduled to continue through March 2026, so I'm pretty sure those last ones will be 2026MY cars.

Even if the only difference between MY2025 and MY2026 is the price.

[MisanoblueZ4]

With 2 years of production, probably 1500ish of these manual 40i will find their way here?

[hilld]

Originally Posted by MisanoblueZ4

With 2 years of production, probably 1500ish of these manual 40i will find their way here?

As long as I end up with one.

[Thibs]

Originally Posted by DDS2015

Mine said the same, hopefully we’ll know by the end of January. I’d be surprised if they didn’t end up doing it. M cars historically have a really high take rate per capita, even compared to the US

My dealer confirmed with their BMW rep that the car will be coming to Canada!

[DDS2015]

Originally Posted by Thibs

My dealer confirmed with their BMW rep that the car will be coming to Canada!

That’s great news!

Just need to figure out colours and if a lift will fit in my garage…..

[Chris592]

Just placed an order for an automatic Z4 with the agreement that once the manual is available we’ll modify the order. I’m the first person asking for a manual Z4 at that San Diego area dealership and this holds a build slot for me.

Sales mgr said every dealer will get some allocation, they expect to start production in March, and delivery is hopefully in June.

He couldn’t confirm any details, e.g. that manual is a $3500 upgrade, new colors, etc. Rumor is (maybe even this thread?) is it will be available for order on Feb 1.

If curious, it is San Remo green (assuming that is actually available) with cognac leather. 😍 Was so tempted by the frozen green, but the maintenance / durability issues disuaded me.

Super excited!

Chris

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by Chris592

Just placed an order for an automatic Z4 with the agreement that once the manual is available we’ll modify the order. I’m the first person asking for a manual Z4 at that San Diego area dealership and this holds a build slot for me.

Sales mgr said every dealer will get some allocation, they expect to start production in March, and delivery is hopefully in June.

He couldn’t confirm any details, e.g. that manual is a $3500 upgrade, new colors, etc. Rumor is (maybe even this thread?) is it will be available for order on Feb 1.

If curious, it is San Remo green (assuming that is actually available) with cognac leather. 😍 Was so tempted by the frozen green, but the maintenance / durability issues disuaded me.

Super excited!

Chris

Congrats!

T-minus 3 days until the configurator is live, hopefully

[tracer bullet]

Originally Posted by Chris592

Was so tempted by the frozen green, but the maintenance / durability issues disuaded me.

I've been considering it as well but won't do it either. I've been researching it a lot and I know that it's not THAT bad. But I know that, try as I might, between me doing dumb stuff and my kid and wife around, not to mention my kid's friends, I'll have little crap happen to the car and I'd like to be able to DIY some minor repairs i.e. with polishing compound and such when needed. I can do that with shiny clear coat. I maintain my cars well and keep them a long time, and I just keep thinking in like 10 years the clear coated car will have held up better. Perhaps not as an intrinsic property, but with my situation.

[Chris592]

Originally Posted by tracer bullet

I've been considering it as well but won't do it either. I've been researching it a lot and I know that it's not THAT bad.
[…]
I maintain my cars well and keep them a long time, and I just keep thinking in like 10 years the clear coated car will have held up better.

That’s almost exactly my own thought process and conclusion. But man it looks great (to me)!