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I've priced both models out comparably equipped, resulting in a $12K difference. It wasn't that I couldn't afford it (I paid cash for my s30i). I just couldn't rationalize a $12K premium for the M40i when I truly love nearly everything about my s30i including it's performance. I'm new to the BMW world so perhaps I don't hold the same reverence to the "M" as others do. My only disappointment is the lack of a HUD, available only with M40i for '22 models due to supply chain restraints. With availability of the HUD in '23 s30i models, my only regret is not waiting a few months to order a '23 s30i. However, even if $12K had magically appeared at my front door to cover the difference, I'd have bought a s30i and invested the $12K elsewhere. The s30i is NOT the best Z4 but it's by far the best bang for the buck Z4, at least 95% of the pleasure for 80% of the cost. Full disclosure: in an earlier phase of my life, I very well may have chosen an M40i but I'm happy to have grown past that phase. To those of you with an M40i, I salute you and have rare moments of envy toward you but I guarantee you do not have more fun with yours than I have with mine. FWIW, I'm genuinely happy both models are available because the availability of both models has helped to sustain production. There's a market for both. |
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11-09-2022, 01:21 AM | #27 |
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12k is a lot, currently I would have to pay just 6k more for the M40i equally equipped.
Fun with the M40i depends on the driving profile and for me it is more suburban driving in the mountain area with winding roads. The M40i can do this well, but for me just too good, it feels too solid and settled with filtered feedback. Performancewise it is a dream, but I see the advantage more on the highway and crusing than on my ususual roads. So less weight, smaller tyres and maybe even the m sports suspension rather than the adaptive one would be the better options for this purpose. I wouldn’t order anything than the rear view camera and the mirror package, less is more in this case, I never use HUD, adaptive cruise control or such stuff in a sports car, neither in our family sedan. Even harman kardon is not worth the extra money in the Z4 in my opinion, it just sounds artifical. I try now the small and heavy canon ball called M240i convertible (1750kg real weight), not in any means comparable to the Z4, but in its way it‘s fun to drive and the steering is just gorgeous. Maybe next year or so I‘ll go for the 30i, because of lower weight and better handling - let‘s give it a try Last edited by LoneStar; 11-09-2022 at 01:31 AM.. |
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As you've suggested, it's a very subjective decision. My previous 4 "fun cars" have been 2.0L convertibles (and the Z4 s30i blows them away) so I'm probably biased toward the s30i but, for a sports car, the s30i is my ultimate driving machine. Best of luck to you.
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I’ve test driven both and even as someone who’s never owned anything more exciting than a newish Accord, there was just something special about the M40i that took my breath away. Even though it’s probably more than we should spend, I’ll be putting in an order for one soon and seriously doubt I’ll have any regrets. I walked away from a very low mileage CPO 30i earlier this year that had all the options we wanted, even the HUD and almost the ideal color and don’t regret that for a second, even if it was probably the smart choice.
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Here in Europe all new cars sold will have to be without combustion engines from 2035, and the lobbyists if they had their way would ban them now. So who knows how much longer a v6 will be available and affordable. So I'm looking at moving to the M4.0. My issue is that my sDrive is really nicely specc'd and I cannot find a used car with the same level of options - so need to figure out for myself what to compromise on ! First world problems . . . . |
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It's the sound while starting and the strong base torque which impresses, absolutely. 2.0l turbos need to take breath and drive differently and I only like small engines in light cars. I once tested a 530i xDrive sedan - not much fun at all to be honest. |
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Probably extreme examples due to unusual market circumstances but future residual should minimize the upcharge to buy.
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Know everyone of those used cars. Been looking at Z4s for a month. Driven a nearly new. 3.0, but cannot find a M4.0. Loved the 3.0 handling and it had good power, but just feel like the power of the M4.0 would be more fun for me.
But back to priorities, just decided that I will stick with my 135i with 6mt and 400hp. Gonna put money into furnishing my son's new house. (And I do not want to borrow money to buy the Z4.) Like was said, each of us has our own priorities. Still love the looks and feel of the Z4, though. |
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As far as comments about "investing the difference" etc. .....ALL these cars are just toys for the majority of us so the same could be said about owning one at all.... Dave |
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In all my years of buying cars I've never regretted getting the one with the bigger engine, I do regret buying my wife the A5 instead of the S5.
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My wife drives a 500hp Audi SQ8......but she's scared to give it more than about a quarter throttle! LOL.......oh well, I periodically give it some "exercise". ;-)
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I've never regretted spending more money for the "top dog" product regardless of whether it could be objectively rationalized; things such as computers (faster processor, more memory, larger storage), TVs (screen size, picture and audio quality), house (more square footage, bedrooms, bathrooms), etc. The same would apply to a Z4 purchase. Had I bought an M40i, I'd continue to rationalize the purchase decision, never allowing myself to wonder if I'd have been happy with a s30i instead. In fact, I would be a strong proponent of the M40i over the s30i. Such is human nature. Of course, my rationalization only applies to me and it would be wrong to believe otherwise, especially with the discretionary purchase of a luxury vehicle. That takes some of the rationalization completely out of the picture. Despite all that and despite being one of those who have a tendency to rationalize and purchase the "top dog", I believe I made the right decision (for me) with the s30i and am extremely pleased with it. Disclaimer: Your mileage may vary. Opinion is provided "as is" without any warranties. Above terms subject to change without notice. Action figures sold separately. Batteries not included. Always drive on roads, not on people. Consult your physician if fever persists for more than 3 days of if pain continues for more than 5 days. Any resemblance to actual persons, living or dead, is unintentional and purely coincidental. |
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Guess I don't see buying the Z4 as a "rational" decision in the first place. A 2 seat car is want not a need. Its a toy, a fun car whatever, but trying to rationalize the purchase of a $50,000/$70,000 Z4 is an exercise in futility, AKA tickling yourself. No different then a kid in a candy store spending his milk money on some M&M's instead of in the cafeteria on a container of milk. The want has already overwhelmed the need. No rationalization required. You can set a buying limit on what you can afford, but thats just a budget constraint, you already left rational land when you left the Sedan/SUV out of the mix.
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