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      06-30-2019, 01:57 PM   #23
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I am not jealous in the least...I am actually glad for it but it is what it is-a photo op. Perhaps it will lead to better things.
I meant the dems in the news I've been reading. For clarification; seething because it's a dream for any politician.
Democrat doing it...TIME cover the following day. I guarantee it.
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No difference...When you call a sadistic madman Uncle Joe and hand him half of Europe, that is not exactly keeping your distance
You missed my point, but I am not surprised one bit.
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You missed my point, but I am not surprised one bit.
You had no point. What you wanted to say is that this was a bad move because Trump was doing it. If a Democrat had done the same then you would have labeled it a bold strategy.

The thing about world politics is that you cannot bomb every body. Given that psychopaths are driven to positions of power, sometimes you have no choice but to sit down and talk to them.
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as historic as McDonald's billionth burger...

Bernard-Henri Lévy calls this mistaken American sense of history "false memorialization". Of course the burger is with cheese: meat in the middle over meet in the middle.

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You had no point. What you wanted to say is that this was a bad move because Trump was doing it. If a Democrat had done the same then you would have labeled it a bold strategy.

The thing about world politics is that you cannot bomb every body. Given that psychopaths are driven to positions of power, sometimes you have no choice but to sit down and talk to them.
Once again you are an idiot, putting words into someone's mouth that they did not say. I would feel the same if this were a Democrat, and my post should have been clear enough about that. And once again, there is a difference between keeping a professional distance from someone and recognizing the evil in them and attempting to negotiating peace, and fawning all over them like and idiot as Trump does.
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You missed my point, but I am not surprised one bit.
You had no point. What you wanted to say is that this was a bad move because Trump was doing it. If a Democrat had done the same then you would have labeled it a bold strategy.

The thing about world politics is that you cannot bomb every body. Given that psychopaths are driven to positions of power, sometimes you have no choice but to sit down and talk to them.
Why do you even bother "engaging" CNN boy???
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Once again you are an idiot, putting words into someone's mouth that they did not say. I would feel the same if this were a Democrat, and my post should have been clear enough about that. And once again, there is a difference between keeping a professional distance from someone and recognizing the evil in them and attempting to negotiating peace, and fawning all over them like and idiot as Trump does.
You obviously would suck at negotiating. Lil Kim is not signing a document of unconditional surrender. Trump is buttering him up to put him at ease and bringing him to the negotiating table in a non hostile manner.

Putting your client at ease is big part of business. Same goes for negotiationing.
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Libs in 2017. Omg Trump is going to start ww3. Why is he being so hostile to Kim? When he went with the sticks approach that every other president went with.

Libs 2018. Could not stfu over Kims sister at the winter olympics in Seoul. They were praising here.

Libs 2019. Omg why is Trump negotiating with a dictator.
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There is a big difference between keeping your distance and negotiating, and having an all out love affair and expressing your admiration over and over for a tyrant and a killer. I don't like people who admire killers, be they dictators, or the guy down the street who kills someone. Trump has expressed his admiration for Kim and Putin time and again, as well as other law breakers, and that is a problem.
And you think the lawmakers you support in the US haven't broken any laws or even killed? You think they are honest hard working people?

You don't get to that level from nothing by simply being honest and hardworking.
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LOL. And he treats people how? And he treats the media (other than those like Faux News and Rush Limpbone that kiss his feet) how? Get real. He gets exactly what he has coming to him by most of the media.
I'm amazed people still make excuses for the media's blatant hate-fest.

Sure he warrants a lot of criticism, but you have to be incredibly biased to think it isn't overboard.
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Libs in 2017. Omg Trump is going to start ww3. Why is he being so hostile to Kim? When he went with the sticks approach that every other president went with.

Libs 2018. Could not stfu over Kims sister at the winter olympics in Seoul. They were praising here.

Libs 2019. Omg why is Trump negotiating with a dictator.
Haha I'm still waiting for the WW3 that everybody swore was going to happen the past 3.5 yrs.

Along with the massive recession.

Along with the nuclear war with North Korea.

I'm a minority, still waiting to by lynched by the conservative boogeyman.
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Rather than giving Trump (and Kim?) all the credit, wasn't this instigated by the President of South Korea, using the opportunity with Trump being in the region attending the G20 summit?

If it leads to decreased tension and steps in a positive direction, then I'm all for it. But the sceptic in me thinks this is a 2020 re-election campaign stunt...??

If I'm wrong, then why doesn't DT offer an olive branch to e.g. Iran? Or does it not suit the political/military agenda of the puppet-masters?
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If I'm wrong, then why doesn't DT offer an olive branch to e.g. Iran? Or does it not suit the political/military agenda of the puppet-masters?
You and I don't usually see eye-to-eye, but you have a good point with this. He has made multiple visits to the DPRK and other locations to meet with Kim but nothing I have noted with respect to Iran.

I don't have an answer for this, unless it relates to Iran just wanting nothing to do with us and not wanting to chat? Who knows, but you make a good point.

The only thing I can think of, is that the DPRK is a higher priority due to the oppression of the citizens? Citizens in Iran, in general, are not doing too bad, especially compared to the absolute misery of the DPRK.
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MSM is telling me today that trump walking into n Korea is historic since its first time a president did that

Why is it historic?

I think Nixon going to china was historic since china is a county with powerful history and ppl with giant potential so that was so important

Same thing for Nixon visiting Russia as Russia is very important ppl in the world now and in history

But n Korea no importance for human history now or in the past. Why does it matter so much to MSM I wondering?

Now if trump went to Iran I think it would be true history since they are important ppl during history
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MSM is telling me today that trump walking into n Korea is historic since its first time a president did that

Why is it historic?

I think Nixon going to china was historic since china is a county with powerful history and ppl with giant potential so that was so important

Same thing for Nixon visiting Russia as Russia is very important ppl in the world now and in history

But n Korea no importance for human history now or in the past. Why does it matter so much to MSM I wondering?

Now if trump went to Iran I think it would be true history since they are important ppl during history
I would wager NK is very important to SK, given if hostilities broke out Seoul would be wiped out and WW3 would have been triggered. NK and SK were once one country with a very significant history in the region. I dont think the people of Korea would appreciate you calling their history insignificant.
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lol these political threads really define that america will implode on itself. no matter what anyone does on either party. there's always hate and black and white solutions. unfortunately there's always grey area....For example how else do you negotiate with NK. They dgaf about our military blah blah...one button and the world will be over

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MSM is telling me today that trump walking into n Korea is historic since its first time a president did that

Why is it historic?

I think Nixon going to china was historic since china is a county with powerful history and ppl with giant potential so that was so important

Same thing for Nixon visiting Russia as Russia is very important ppl in the world now and in history

But n Korea no importance for human history now or in the past. Why does it matter so much to MSM I wondering?

Now if trump went to Iran I think it would be true history since they are important ppl during history
Maybe you should read a history book or even check out History,com


https://www.history.com/topics/korea/korean-war

"Nearly 5 million people died. More than half of these–about 10 percent of Korea's prewar population–were civilians. (This rate of civilian casualties was higher than World War II's and Vietnam's.) Almost 40,000 Americans died in action in Korea, and more than 100,000 were wounded."

"Approximately 150,000 troops from South Korea, the United States, and participating U.N. nations were killed in the Korean War, and as many as one million South Korean civilians perished. An estimated 800,000 communist soldiers were killed, and more than 200,000 North Korean civilians died."

I guess those were not important people. Usually when someone does something for the first time in history, it is called historic by definition.
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MSM is telling me today that trump walking into n Korea is historic since its first time a president did that

Why is it historic?

I think Nixon going to china was historic since china is a county with powerful history and ppl with giant potential so that was so important

Same thing for Nixon visiting Russia as Russia is very important ppl in the world now and in history

But n Korea no importance for human history now or in the past. Why does it matter so much to MSM I wondering?

Now if trump went to Iran I think it would be true history since they are important ppl during history
I would wager NK is very important to SK, given if hostilities broke out Seoul would be wiped out and WW3 would have been triggered. NK and SK were once one country with a very significant history in the region. I dont think the people of Korea would appreciate you calling their history insignificant.
Well I think what he's doing with Korea is very good and should do more. But I don't see why it's historic

I think ppl will always remember Nixon going to china because it was when 2 economic powers made some understanding when you look back. In 10 years from now I don't think anyone will remember or care about this

Also why would it be ww3 if they fight? Why do we have to fight for Korea? I think trump won saying we shouldn't fight all these wars

Also the don't think n Korea would ever use nukes on s Korea sunce it's like nuking yourself all the radiation would come back to them
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LOL. And he treats people how? And he treats the media (other than those like Faux News and Rush Limpbone that kiss his feet) how? Get real. He gets exactly what he has coming to him by most of the media.
No, but whiney bitches trying to destroy the country from within are gonna get some.
Trump, obviously. His words and actions are right there with AOC in being unintelligent and misleading.

If this works in getting NK to denuclearize, then kudos to Trump. But he doesn't have to lie about Obama and his efforts on NK.
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Well I think what he's doing with Korea is very good and should do more. But I don't see why it's historic

I think ppl will always remember Nixon going to china because it was when 2 economic powers made some understanding when you look back. In 10 years from now I don't think anyone will remember or care about this

Also why would it be ww3 if they fight? Why do we have to fight for Korea? I think trump won saying we shouldn't fight all these wars

Also the don't think n Korea would ever use nukes on s Korea sunce it's like nuking yourself all the radiation would come back to them
They dont have to nuke SK. Seoul is right near the border and NKs massive artillery barage would level the city. And yes an invasion of SK would trigger a world war, just like the German and Soviet invasion of Poland caused one. But I guess Poland also has no historic significance
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MSM is telling me today that trump walking into n Korea is historic since its first time a president did that

Why is it historic?

I think Nixon going to china was historic since china is a county with powerful history and ppl with giant potential so that was so important

Same thing for Nixon visiting Russia as Russia is very important ppl in the world now and in history

But n Korea no importance for human history now or in the past. Why does it matter so much to MSM I wondering?

Now if trump went to Iran I think it would be true history since they are important ppl during history
Maybe you should read a history book or even check out History,com


https://www.history.com/topics/korea/korean-war

"Nearly 5 million people died. More than half of these–about 10 percent of Korea's prewar population–were civilians. (This rate of civilian casualties was higher than World War II's and Vietnam's.) Almost 40,000 Americans died in action in Korea, and more than 100,000 were wounded."

"Approximately 150,000 troops from South Korea, the United States, and participating U.N. nations were killed in the Korean War, and as many as one million South Korean civilians perished. An estimated 800,000 communist soldiers were killed, and more than 200,000 North Korean civilians died."

I guess those were not important people. Usually when someone does something for the first time in history, it is called historic by definition.
Why do you always make personal insults and then run to mods and cry cry to get threats locked? Maybe stop with personal insults and talk like normal person?

And I don't think anything a president does the first time is historic. Is the first time a president ate a chicken sandwich historic? Is the first time a president rode a bicycle the same level of history as the first time president drove a car or fly airplane? I think those are more important to world history so it's called historic but not bicycle really
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