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      10-20-2019, 03:03 PM   #133
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Because the 4er GC is much better looking then the F30 3er that's why it sold so well.
i mean, the same goes for the F22 vs the F20. i'm not sure if they deliberately nerf the msport fron ends on the 1/3/5 series, but the 2/4/6 series will always have the better looking/more aggressive body. i just can't fathom the need for GC body over a wagon, or the SUV "Coupe" styling over an SUV. I personally despise the side profile.
Side profile looks like a Subaru or maybe even a Honda.

I see no BMW form language.
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quite generic but I still think it will sell...
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So everybody loves it?
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So everybody loves it?
It appears that even the guy in your ad spot, is scared of it as well.

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I see no BMW form language.
At least there's the blue calipers.
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Hard pass....lowered X2
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Hard pass....lowered X2
Nothing like the X2.

X2 is a jacked up hatchback.
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Side profile looks like a Subaru or maybe even a Honda.

I see no BMW form language.
But hey, at least the brakes are mounted to the outside to increased the polar moment and make it spin out of control easier if you ever overcome the understeer!
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Guys, there is still hope left! From a BMW official,

"There will be a successor that will be on a rear-wheel-drive platform, so customers who want and need a new 2 Series coupe will find that in our line-up, as well as those who want a six-cylinder."

The manual is still unconfirmed, but we will still likely have one in the M2 coupe, as officials previously said that lower tier M's (M2/3/4) will have a manual for the future.

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https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/bmw/2-...e-mercedes-cla
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Guys, there is still hope left! From a BMW official,

"There will be a successor that will be on a rear-wheel-drive platform, so customers who want and need a new 2 Series coupe will find that in our line-up, as well as those who want a six-cylinder."
Yes, the G42 2 Series Coupe will arrive in mid 2021 and the G87 M2 is expected in 2023.

As always, I encourage all Bimmerpost readers to follow this thread closely:

https://bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=901686
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Side profile looks like a Subaru or maybe even a Honda.

I see no BMW form language.
like i said, i dispise the GC side profile. The only one to really pull it off is the 6 series since it's so long already. But I buy coupes because I want 2 doors, not a chopped up wagon.

What's funny is this is also one of my biggest gripes with the Tesla design language. But again, they sell like crazy. So obviously the audience likes what it likes.
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Side profile looks like a Subaru or maybe even a Honda.

I see no BMW form language.
like i said, i dispise the GC side profile. The only one to really pull it off is the 6 series since it's so long already. But I buy coupes because I want 2 doors, not a chopped up wagon.

What's funny is this is also one of my biggest gripes with the Tesla design language. But again, they sell like crazy. So obviously the audience likes what it likes.
Tesla also sells well for other reasons, not mainly design, but rather because they offer something "unique" to the market. Want an electric car? Very few do that/have made the strives Tesla has (range, charging, tech, etc.) but want a compact sports sedan? You have a choice from The Germans, Americans, Brits, Japanese and even Korean, the market is much larger with greater choice and variety.
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Looks like Evo sans the spoiler...
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Side profile looks like a Subaru or maybe even a Honda.

I see no BMW form language.
like i said, i dispise the GC side profile. The only one to really pull it off is the 6 series since it's so long already. But I buy coupes because I want 2 doors, not a chopped up wagon.

What's funny is this is also one of my biggest gripes with the Tesla design language. But again, they sell like crazy. So obviously the audience likes what it likes.
Tesla Model 3 would sell better if it had a functional hatch.

BMW is smart doing a full electric version of the 4er GC.
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Tesla Model 3 would sell better if it had a functional hatch.

BMW is smart doing a full electric version of the 4er GC.
Let's just hope unlike what seems like every single non-Tesla EV, this EV can actually go more than 250 miles
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Tesla Model 3 would sell better if it had a functional hatch.

BMW is smart doing a full electric version of the 4er GC.
Let's just hope unlike what seems like every single non-Tesla EV, this EV can actually go more than 250 miles
Well they I absolutely agree with that statement.

Looks like Porsche is the first company to pull that off.
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These latest Bmw hits are trash. Hot garbage. Damn it's such a shame.

Time for Zupra lol
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I don't understand why this car even exists. Why not just get a 3 series.

I also don't understand why BMW has moved to a design approach that incorporates all of these extra lines and seams. The BMW design etiquette used to be clean lines and reserved with underlying, subdued aggression for the M models. Like a fine tailored suit. Today, it's hard to distill from Honda or Toyota.
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I also don't understand why BMW has moved to a design approach that incorporates all of these extra lines and seams.
Because Huey-Doinky and his Lost Boys.
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I don't understand why this car even exists. Why not just get a 3 series.

I also don't understand why BMW has moved to a design approach that incorporates all of these extra lines and seams. The BMW design etiquette used to be clean lines and reserved with underlying, subdued aggression for the M models. Like a fine tailored suit. Today, it's hard to distill from Honda or Toyota.
Because 3 series is kind big these days I suppose.

I don't think it will sell in North America but the rest of the world it should compete well against all the other fwd ones, quite well optioned if you ask me, so as long as pricing is right (slight to somewhat of a premium)
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I don't understand why this car even exists. Why not just get a 3 series.
The 3 Series? Didn't you hear? BMW has canceled the 3 Series. The G20 is the last one ever.

Really. The board was voting on the next generation, and there was a huge debate on which direction it should go. Finally one member stood up and said:

"Guys, I don't understand why this car even exists. Why not just get a 5 Series?"

Everyone looked at each other, shrugged, and then in perfect unison said "Good point." So they canned it right then and there.

Absolutely true story.
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