BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
BIMMERPOST Universal Forums Professional Motorsport Racing Discussion (IMSA, DTM, Formula 1, Grand-AM, Le Mans, IRL, WRC, etc..) F1 2020: Italian GP - Imola (Nov 1)

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      11-01-2020, 08:19 AM   #67
///M Power-Belgium
General
///M Power-Belgium's Avatar
Belgium
62743
Rep
24,511
Posts

Drives: ///M3-E92-DCT Silverstone II
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Belgium

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by MKSixer View Post
Thanks.

I'm gutted for Max. He pressured BOT into a mistake. Nicely done!! Did you see the debris that came from BOTs car?

I'm no expert on aerodynamics but this may have caused a few problems...
Ferrari screwed up their own race , like usual ! And for the others with debris on the track as well !
MAX's tire incident was absolutely NOT normal ...His counter steering reaction was outstanding , but ended in the gravel !
Tire blew completely in pieces !

The RB 16 looked faster today . That's promising for in the next 4 races !

Stay healthy and safe !
Over here COVID looks like a scene from a Horror Movie !!!
Lock down ! Empty roads ! The silence and death is "TERRIFYING" !!!
__________________
"MAX VERSTAPPEN" IS THE 2021+2022+2023 F1 WORLD CHAMPION - #UnLeashTheLion

BPM DEV-Tune & DCT Software-Tune & Servotronic & coding ///Alpine HID Angeleyes ///Oem.exhaust mod.
Appreciate 4
yco5722.50
M5Rick58888.50
MKSixer34171.50
Bongoxxx804.00
      11-01-2020, 08:19 AM   #68
racerbruce
Brigadier General
racerbruce's Avatar
3849
Rep
3,004
Posts

Drives: 21 X3 & 13 335is E93
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Seattle

iTrader: (1)

HAM on radio....
"I'M GOING TO PICK UP THE PACE...DON'T STOP ME".


And then proceeds to set fast lap after fast lap after fast lap after fast lap....
__________________
Racerbruce

Last edited by racerbruce; 11-01-2020 at 08:31 AM..
Appreciate 4
yco5722.50
MKSixer34171.50
5.M0NSTER3353.50
FormulaMMM3662.50
      11-01-2020, 08:23 AM   #69
///M Power-Belgium
General
///M Power-Belgium's Avatar
Belgium
62743
Rep
24,511
Posts

Drives: ///M3-E92-DCT Silverstone II
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Belgium

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bongoxxx View Post
Prove they are using it. FIA inspects the cars and telemetry constantly.

Red Bull and Honda just can’t design a car and power unit to compete - it’s that simple....or some would say Merc also has better drivers.
Merc has better drivers ?
Again ...You watched the race ?

Or did you closed your eyes the moment when MAX took P2 over BOT ?
__________________
"MAX VERSTAPPEN" IS THE 2021+2022+2023 F1 WORLD CHAMPION - #UnLeashTheLion

BPM DEV-Tune & DCT Software-Tune & Servotronic & coding ///Alpine HID Angeleyes ///Oem.exhaust mod.
Appreciate 1
M5Rick58888.50
      11-01-2020, 08:24 AM   #70
yco
i'm just saying
yco's Avatar
5723
Rep
2,634
Posts

Drives: E71 X6M '10 (sold)
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Istanbul & Kyiv

iTrader: (0)

witnessed a history...

not much overtaking but it was a fun race with some parts.. it was a shame for Max cause he was having a good race and he was patiently pursuing struggling Bottas and overtook him in the end..

Lewis' tyre management is in another level.. he was gonna take the lead anyway without VSC.. amazingly great work to make things look boring but actually its not.. wow..

Russel' mistake shows the human part of the sport while just about to take some points.. and more Albon pushes things go downhill.. thats sad..
__________________
"Race car driving is like sex. All guys think they're good at it." Jay Leno
Appreciate 4
5.M0NSTER3353.50
MKSixer34171.50
M5Rick58888.50
      11-01-2020, 08:29 AM   #71
5.M0NSTER
Lieutenant Colonel
5.M0NSTER's Avatar
United_States
3354
Rep
1,823
Posts

Drives: 2018 Camaro SS 1LE
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Back in Michigan, GO BLUE!

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium View Post
Merc has better drivers ?
Again ...You watched the race ?

Or did you closed your eyes the moment when MAX took P2 over BOT ?
Short term gain, long term pain.

Merc do have better drivers. Max did well today, but I think he wore those hard tires too thin to survive debris on track. And didn’t have enough lead on BOT to pit, so he kept going. And now regrets it.
Appreciate 1
MKSixer34171.50
      11-01-2020, 08:45 AM   #72
///M Power-Belgium
General
///M Power-Belgium's Avatar
Belgium
62743
Rep
24,511
Posts

Drives: ///M3-E92-DCT Silverstone II
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Belgium

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by yco View Post
witnessed a history...

not much overtaking but it was a fun race with some parts.. it was a shame for Max cause he was having a good race and he was patiently pursuing struggling Bottas and overtook him in the end..

Lewis' tyre management is in another level.. he was gonna take the lead anyway without VSC.. amazingly great work to make things look boring but actually its not.. wow..

Russel' mistake shows the human part of the sport while just about to take some points.. and more Albon pushes things go downhill.. thats sad..
MAX spoke the HULK already . Marko has the last word and should agree...But he showed interests as well . As he talked from the last free RB seat .
As we saw Albon screwed it up under pressure , once again .. Albon got enough opportunities .Think it was enough !
__________________
"MAX VERSTAPPEN" IS THE 2021+2022+2023 F1 WORLD CHAMPION - #UnLeashTheLion

BPM DEV-Tune & DCT Software-Tune & Servotronic & coding ///Alpine HID Angeleyes ///Oem.exhaust mod.
Appreciate 2
MKSixer34171.50
M5Rick58888.50
      11-01-2020, 08:47 AM   #73
MKSixer
Lieutenant General
MKSixer's Avatar
34172
Rep
11,637
Posts

Drives: 2015 BMW i8, E63 M6, 328d
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Southeast United States

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2016 M4 GTS (Allotted)  [0.00]
2013 BMW 328d  [0.00]
2007 BMW M6  [10.00]
2015 BMW i8  [10.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium View Post
Ferrari screwed up their own race , like usual ! And for the others with debris on the track as well !
MAX's tire incident was absolutely NOT normal ...His counter steering reaction was outstanding , but ended in the gravel !
Tire blew completely in pieces !

The RB 16 looked faster today . That's promising for in the next 4 races !

Stay healthy and safe !
Over here COVID looks like a scene from a Horror Movie !!!
Lock down ! Empty roads ! The silence and death is "TERRIFYING" !!!
Than the Mercedes on BOTs hands. Not faster than the Mercedes in HAMs hands!!
__________________
Several actors have played James Bond, Sean Connery IS James Bond...
Sir 7ewis, 7X FIA Formula One World Championship, World Driving Champion. 100 Wins. 101 Pole Positions. 54 Fastest Laps. Actual Rain Master. Leave me to it, Bono. One Race Win in each of his 15 years in F1. Most Laps Led in Formula One. The Centurion.
Appreciate 0
      11-01-2020, 08:49 AM   #74
MKSixer
Lieutenant General
MKSixer's Avatar
34172
Rep
11,637
Posts

Drives: 2015 BMW i8, E63 M6, 328d
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Southeast United States

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2016 M4 GTS (Allotted)  [0.00]
2013 BMW 328d  [0.00]
2007 BMW M6  [10.00]
2015 BMW i8  [10.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium View Post
Merc has better drivers ?
Again ...You watched the race ?

Or did you closed your eyes the moment when MAX took P2 over BOT ?
BOT had an unwanted passenger during the race.
Attached Images
 
__________________
Several actors have played James Bond, Sean Connery IS James Bond...
Sir 7ewis, 7X FIA Formula One World Championship, World Driving Champion. 100 Wins. 101 Pole Positions. 54 Fastest Laps. Actual Rain Master. Leave me to it, Bono. One Race Win in each of his 15 years in F1. Most Laps Led in Formula One. The Centurion.
Appreciate 2
M5Rick58888.50
      11-01-2020, 08:52 AM   #75
MKSixer
Lieutenant General
MKSixer's Avatar
34172
Rep
11,637
Posts

Drives: 2015 BMW i8, E63 M6, 328d
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Southeast United States

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2016 M4 GTS (Allotted)  [0.00]
2013 BMW 328d  [0.00]
2007 BMW M6  [10.00]
2015 BMW i8  [10.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by yco View Post
witnessed a history...

not much overtaking but it was a fun race with some parts.. it was a shame for Max cause he was having a good race and he was patiently pursuing struggling Bottas and overtook him in the end..

Lewis' tyre management is in another level.. he was gonna take the lead anyway without VSC.. amazingly great work to make things look boring but actually its not.. wow..

Russel' mistake shows the human part of the sport while just about to take some points.. and more Albon pushes things go downhill.. thats sad..
Well stated!

Lewis is putting on racing clinics at this point. He is calling his own strategies, preserving the tires like no one else on the track driving any other chassis.

Anyone not appreciating this cannot be a true F1 fan.

History unfolding. Best-of-the-best performance. Once again, one fastest lap after another.
__________________
Several actors have played James Bond, Sean Connery IS James Bond...
Sir 7ewis, 7X FIA Formula One World Championship, World Driving Champion. 100 Wins. 101 Pole Positions. 54 Fastest Laps. Actual Rain Master. Leave me to it, Bono. One Race Win in each of his 15 years in F1. Most Laps Led in Formula One. The Centurion.
Appreciate 2
5.M0NSTER3353.50
yco5722.50
      11-01-2020, 08:53 AM   #76
///M Power-Belgium
General
///M Power-Belgium's Avatar
Belgium
62743
Rep
24,511
Posts

Drives: ///M3-E92-DCT Silverstone II
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Belgium

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by MKSixer View Post
BOT had an unwanted passenger during the race.
I know my friend . My response is here above in # 67 !
__________________
"MAX VERSTAPPEN" IS THE 2021+2022+2023 F1 WORLD CHAMPION - #UnLeashTheLion

BPM DEV-Tune & DCT Software-Tune & Servotronic & coding ///Alpine HID Angeleyes ///Oem.exhaust mod.
Appreciate 1
MKSixer34171.50
      11-01-2020, 08:53 AM   #77
MKSixer
Lieutenant General
MKSixer's Avatar
34172
Rep
11,637
Posts

Drives: 2015 BMW i8, E63 M6, 328d
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Southeast United States

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2016 M4 GTS (Allotted)  [0.00]
2013 BMW 328d  [0.00]
2007 BMW M6  [10.00]
2015 BMW i8  [10.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium View Post
MAX spoke the HULK already . Marko has the last word and should agree...But he showed interests as well . As he talked from the last free RB seat .
As we saw Albon screwed it up under pressure , once again .. Albon got enough opportunities .Think it was enough !
We shall see. RB is 51 percent owned by a Thai company.

I agree that ALB needs to be demoted. RBR need a different driver strategy and need to change their car development to bring both cars forward and not make it so pointy as Max likes it.
__________________
Several actors have played James Bond, Sean Connery IS James Bond...
Sir 7ewis, 7X FIA Formula One World Championship, World Driving Champion. 100 Wins. 101 Pole Positions. 54 Fastest Laps. Actual Rain Master. Leave me to it, Bono. One Race Win in each of his 15 years in F1. Most Laps Led in Formula One. The Centurion.
Appreciate 1
      11-01-2020, 09:03 AM   #78
///M Power-Belgium
General
///M Power-Belgium's Avatar
Belgium
62743
Rep
24,511
Posts

Drives: ///M3-E92-DCT Silverstone II
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Belgium

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by MKSixer View Post
We shall see. RB is 51 percent owned by a Thai company.

I agree that ALB needs to be demoted. RBR need a different driver strategy and need to change their car development to bring both cars forward and not make it so pointy as Max likes it.
According Horner : Albon can change his set-ups when ever he wants . But he is struggling to find a good personal balance of his car .
Perhaps Albon has not the feeling to do it...
Albon's PU is pushing same power as MAX's car .
__________________
"MAX VERSTAPPEN" IS THE 2021+2022+2023 F1 WORLD CHAMPION - #UnLeashTheLion

BPM DEV-Tune & DCT Software-Tune & Servotronic & coding ///Alpine HID Angeleyes ///Oem.exhaust mod.
Appreciate 1
M5Rick58888.50
      11-01-2020, 09:21 AM   #79
yco
i'm just saying
yco's Avatar
5723
Rep
2,634
Posts

Drives: E71 X6M '10 (sold)
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Istanbul & Kyiv

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium View Post
MAX spoke the HULK already . Marko has the last word and should agree...But he showed interests as well . As he talked from the last free RB seat .
As we saw Albon screwed it up under pressure , once again .. Albon got enough opportunities .Think it was enough !
yes unfortunately he had mate..

IF Hulk comes to RB and after some time still struggles like 0.4 - 0.5s i believe that can mean car is too much Max oriented.. Max is a great driver but that bias might be killing RB's possible constructors points.. then there is not much point to put too much pressure on the 2nd driver..
__________________
"Race car driving is like sex. All guys think they're good at it." Jay Leno
Appreciate 2
5.M0NSTER3353.50
MKSixer34171.50
      11-01-2020, 09:43 AM   #80
///M Power-Belgium
General
///M Power-Belgium's Avatar
Belgium
62743
Rep
24,511
Posts

Drives: ///M3-E92-DCT Silverstone II
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Belgium

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by yco View Post
yes unfortunately he had mate..

IF Hulk comes to RB and after some time still struggles like 0.4 - 0.5s i believe that can mean car is too much Max oriented.. Max is a great driver but that bias might be killing RB's possible constructors points.. then there is not much point to put too much pressure on the 2nd driver..
This...
Attached Images
 
__________________
"MAX VERSTAPPEN" IS THE 2021+2022+2023 F1 WORLD CHAMPION - #UnLeashTheLion

BPM DEV-Tune & DCT Software-Tune & Servotronic & coding ///Alpine HID Angeleyes ///Oem.exhaust mod.
Appreciate 1
M5Rick58888.50
      11-01-2020, 09:49 AM   #81
SenorFunkyPants
Brigadier General
SenorFunkyPants's Avatar
United Kingdom
2510
Rep
4,381
Posts

Drives: 2019 M5
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: UK

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium View Post
This...
Max destroys teamates?...Except for Ricciardo obviously.
Appreciate 3
Steeler2422.00
MKSixer34171.50
      11-01-2020, 10:00 AM   #82
M5Rick
General
M5Rick's Avatar
58889
Rep
19,246
Posts

Drives: M5 F10 DCT Gunmetal
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Southern England

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium View Post
According Horner : Albon can change his set-ups when ever he wants . But he is struggling to find a good personal balance of his car .
Perhaps Albon has not the feeling to do it...
Albon's PU is pushing same power as MAX's car .
Without a solid back up teammate like HAM has then Max's job will be that much harder my friend and the puncture came out of nowhere. It was in pieces but important to try to find what it was that caused it.
Appreciate 1
      11-01-2020, 10:02 AM   #83
5.M0NSTER
Lieutenant Colonel
5.M0NSTER's Avatar
United_States
3354
Rep
1,823
Posts

Drives: 2018 Camaro SS 1LE
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Back in Michigan, GO BLUE!

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SenorFunkyPants View Post
Max destroys teamates?...Except for Ricciardo obviously.
The only thing he destroyed today were his tires, and chances for any points.
Appreciate 1
Steeler2422.00
      11-01-2020, 10:20 AM   #84
///M Power-Belgium
General
///M Power-Belgium's Avatar
Belgium
62743
Rep
24,511
Posts

Drives: ///M3-E92-DCT Silverstone II
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Belgium

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by M5theonlyone View Post
Without a solid back up teammate like HAM has then Max's job will be that much harder my friend and the puncture came out of nowhere. It was in pieces but important to try to find what it was that caused it.
According planetF1 :

The Dutchman had been running P2 after making an impressive move around the outside of Mercedes’ Valtteri Bottas who had floor damage, but on Lap 51 all that work came undone.

On the run to Villeneuve on-board "cameras showed a piece of debris fly up from Verstappen’s RB16" as the Dutchman then lost control and slid into the gravel trap.

Sadly that Red Bull was beached and Verstappen’s race was over ,caused by debris on the track .

Attached Images
 
__________________
"MAX VERSTAPPEN" IS THE 2021+2022+2023 F1 WORLD CHAMPION - #UnLeashTheLion

BPM DEV-Tune & DCT Software-Tune & Servotronic & coding ///Alpine HID Angeleyes ///Oem.exhaust mod.
Appreciate 1
M5Rick58888.50
      11-01-2020, 10:26 AM   #85
M5Rick
General
M5Rick's Avatar
58889
Rep
19,246
Posts

Drives: M5 F10 DCT Gunmetal
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Southern England

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium View Post
According planetF1 :

The Dutchman had been running P2 after making an impressive move around the outside of Mercedes’ Valtteri Bottas who had floor damage, but on Lap 51 all that work came undone.

On the run to Villeneuve on-board "cameras showed a piece of debris fly up from Verstappen’s RB16" as the Dutchman then lost control and slid into the gravel trap.

Sadly that Red Bull was beached and Verstappen’s race was over ,caused by debris on the track .

Aha saw it,a piece of debris then the deflate.
Appreciate 1
      11-01-2020, 10:27 AM   #86
FormulaMMM
Brigadier General
FormulaMMM's Avatar
United_States
3663
Rep
3,422
Posts

Drives: E90 M3
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Midwest

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by racerbruce View Post
HAM on radio....
"I'M GOING TO PICK UP THE PACE...DON'T STOP ME".


And then proceeds to set fast lap after fast lap after fast lap after fast lap....
It was ridiculous. If I'm not mistaken he built the needed 27 second gap prior to the VSC.
__________________
M4 GTS, GT3, C63 S | E90 M3s, E39 M5

Appreciate 1
MKSixer34171.50
      11-01-2020, 10:33 AM   #87
M5Rick
General
M5Rick's Avatar
58889
Rep
19,246
Posts

Drives: M5 F10 DCT Gunmetal
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Southern England

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium View Post
ALBON !! What ...Man !!!
Think it was enough ! MARKO call the HULK NOW ASAP !!!

DO IT NOW !!!
Agree,Hulk's the man!
Appreciate 1
      11-01-2020, 10:48 AM   #88
racerbruce
Brigadier General
racerbruce's Avatar
3849
Rep
3,004
Posts

Drives: 21 X3 & 13 335is E93
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Seattle

iTrader: (1)

Well said -

Quote:
Originally Posted by FormulaMMM View Post
It was ridiculous. If I'm not mistaken he built the needed 27 second gap prior to the VSC.
Ridiculous indeed....HAM radioed Bono with a during-race strategy to take control of the fate of the race....and then consecutive fast laps and fast sector times to create the 26+ sec lead needed to survive a tire change.

HAM continues to operate on another level from his chief competitors. As previously stated in this thread, the F1 world is watching greatness as history is being created by the precision and engineering at MB and by the racecraft by HAM.
__________________
Racerbruce
Appreciate 4
Steeler2422.00
MKSixer34171.50
yco5722.50
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:57 PM.




bmw
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST