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      03-21-2017, 08:02 AM   #1
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Anyone else do the Porsche Experience?

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1282936

I saw this last year, and I'm getting closer and closer to just doing it. Any advise, insight, suggestions?
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I saw this last year, and I'm getting closer and closer to just doing it. Any advise, insight, suggestions?
I looked into a few, but they are just out of my price range. So my only advice would be to not go off track. And post your thoughts after - I'm sure it will be amazing.
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I looked into a few, but they are just out of my price range. So my only advice would be to not go off track. And post your thoughts after - I'm sure it will be amazing.
Joe - Did you live in Florida?
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I did Exotics in Vegas and picked the 911 there because we were on the inside road course, not the full oval. When instructor asked who was driving the 911 and I was the only one raising my hand, I thought there was an issue. He clapped

I also did some Groupon thing that was in my backyard to drive a Ferrari. For the price and time invested it was disappointing, we had a figure 8 that didn't cross that might have been 300 yards long.

$450 for 1.5 hours of seat time is a STEAL, regardless of the vehicle.
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Joe - Did you live in Florida?
No, but I was willing to fly if the price was right and tag it on to a vacation. Plus, they have a few other experiences that are not in Florida which were also interesting (ice driving) but it is just astronomically priced. To me anyways.
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There are some good reviews there regarding PEC in LA. Seems like a must-do for any car enthusiast. Even more so for me since I'm a new Porsche owner.
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Save your money and do PSDS instead. Trust me.
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Save your money and do PSDS instead. Trust me.
Link? I don't own a Porsche...
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Link? I don't own a Porsche...
https://www.porschedriving.com/porsc...ol/experiences

I don't own one either. Don't have to own to go. Got to learn and do lots of track time in both PDK and manual 911's and Cayman's.
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Link? I don't own a Porsche...
Get an invitation to a Porsche product track day. They let us do autocross with Caymans and maneuverability with the SUVs. We took the multiple 911 variants and Panamera's on the track. All in all I did about 50-60 laps and it cost me nothing.

I did learn that most of the attendees were NOT car people. It was pretty sad to watch. There were perhaps 4 people that really enjoyed cars. There was even a guy who didn't realize that the PDK in full sport behaves more like a manual transmission than an automatic. He actually thought the car was stuck in first gear and pulled over at pit-out. When I stopped to see what was wrong, I told him that you have to drive faster to make the car operate properly and left in a cloud of fresh PSS smoke!!
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Get an invitation to a Porsche product track day. They let us do autocross with Caymans and maneuverability with the SUVs. We took the multiple 911 variants and Panamera's on the track. All in all I did about 50-60 laps and it cost me nothing.

I did learn that most of the attendees were NOT car people. It was pretty sad to watch. There were perhaps 4 people that really enjoyed cars. There was even a guy who didn't realize that the PDK in full sport behaves more like a manual transmission than an automatic. He actually thought the car was stuck in first gear and pulled over at pit-out. When I stopped to see what was wrong, I told him that you have to drive faster to make the car operate properly and left in a cloud of fresh PSS smoke!!
I'd like to know more about acquiring an invitation.
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I'd like to know more about acquiring an invitation.
If it's anything like the BMW Driving School, you have to be a Porsche owner for the free invitation. For BMW it has to be an M car or 5 regular cars afaik.
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If it's anything like the BMW Driving School, you have to be a Porsche owner for the free invitation. For BMW it has to be an M car or 5 regular cars afaik.
Just go to the Porsche dealership and have a talk with whomever manages the invitations. They typically look for new business and this is a good way to directly acquire a customer from a somewhat competing marque.
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https://www.porschedriving.com/porsc...ol/experiences

I don't own one either. Don't have to own to go. Got to learn and do lots of track time in both PDK and manual 911's and Cayman's.
I have considered this or one of the independent schools like Bondurant. Porsche's one day is more expensive ($1800 for a day) and has the 718 Boxster S, Carrera S, 911 Turbo S, Panamera GTS

Bondurant's is $1600 for the day class -

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https://bondurant.com/viper-high-performance-driving/

A guess but I would expect that Bondurant gets people that are more serious about performance cars and probably a better learning experience, partly because they had to seek Bondurant out, not find out about it while buying their Cayenne and learning about the fold down seats. Just the manual only Viper probably cuts a large part of the population out.
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If it's anything like the BMW Driving School, you have to be a Porsche owner for the free invitation. For BMW it has to be an M car or 5 regular cars afaik.
I'll convince my dad to buy another one then lol

My income in not Porsche status yet.

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Just go to the Porsche dealership and have a talk with whomever manages the invitations. They typically look for new business and this is a good way to directly acquire a customer from a somewhat competing marque.
Roger that, thank you!
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I have considered this or one of the independent schools like Bondurant. Porsche's one day is more expensive ($1800 for a day) and has the 718 Boxster S, Carrera S, 911 Turbo S, Panamera GTS

Bondurant's is $1600 for the day class -



https://bondurant.com/viper-high-performance-driving/

A guess but I would expect that Bondurant gets people that are more serious about performance cars and probably a better learning experience, partly because they had to seek Bondurant out, not find out about it while buying their Cayenne and learning about the fold down seats. Just the manual only Viper probably cuts a large part of the population out.
I can't speak to Bondurant, but I can tell you PSDS is as serious about performance cars as it gets. PSDS teaches on the track, not in a classroom. I'll use the 2 day as an example. There is 30 mins. of group discussion at first and then you learn on the track with an instructor over the radio as they lead you around the track in a 911 Turbo. During exercises they stand with the rest of the group and use the radio there on the "sideline".

The only times an instructor is next to you in the car:

- During the off road portion (you go in a group and take turns)
- One time at each exercise station on the first day (the rest of your exercises be it wet skid pad, autocross, heel-toeing in MT's, etc. is done with only you in the car). Exception to this is if you really suck and they want to be with you to really help you or you request it. Even if you request it, they push you to do it on your own.
- At the very last track session so he can evaluate what you've learned.

Demonstration of the track is done in a VW Eurovan the first day where you go around the track twice while the instructor drives your group around and gives you track notes and procedures for approaching whatever turn you're going through, braking points, etc. This is repeated after lunch on the way back to the exercise area\pit road from the museum onsite at Barber. Beats someone droning on while pointing at a map.

For me, I don't learn shit in a classroom. I can't stand side seat drivers, especially when I know there's a good chance they're gonna yank the steering wheel on me trying to "show" me something. So really I guess it depends on how you want to learn.

Maybe all the track time is the reason why it's more expensive than Bondurant. I agree with you that the Porsche Experience (completely different from PSDS) is closer to what you're probably referencing. That's the one you learn about while being shown how your fold down backseats work. You have to seek out PSDS (not that the dealer wouldn't know about it if you asked).
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