No Touchscreen on Future Z4s

pinky2022 · 11-07-2021, 10:25 PM

I disagree.
The z4 is not an x3.
Everyone that buys a z4 m40i now and for ever will know exactly what they are looking for.
These 2022 models are going to be black listed within the community as inferior models and so much less desirable.

The person that buys an s30 drive buys it for his wife that could care less.
But not on the high end models.

The person that buys an x3 doesn't know or care.
The person that buys an M8 will know exactly which model not to buy.

And on top of it. Why not offer a rain check and to install it later next year?

I would also disagree on better than not having a car.
I sold my car and have no car right now waiting for my new car.
Owning a z4 m40i cost 1k a month. In the mean time I live perfectly fine ubering everywhere for 1k a month. Much cheaper.
Driving one of these car is a pleasure with NO COMPRIMISE. And I am not going to compromise.
If I want to compromise I can go get a Toyota.

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Originally Posted by rikwynnpa

I work in the car industry. The microchip supply isnt
expected to improve much until mid of next year. BMW is doing the smart thing...keep making the models people want but reduce the options so the assembly line can keep running. Mercedes for example isn't making ANY V8 cars for the rest of 2021 and that has been the case since July. None. The big 3 have removed fuel saving electronics from pick up trucks. People are removing adaptive headlights and premium stereo systems. Jeep is limiting which models and trims can get a V8 engine for MY2022. This is a global crisis. I think we can live without a touch screen for now. Better than not having the car at all!

james11 · 11-08-2021, 07:49 AM

Just got confirmation that my Z4 m40i is starting production in two weeks. Got VIN and all is green.

Nobody contacted me about missing touchscreen so I assume all is well.
Anyone got communication from BMW asking to give up touchscreen?

TAZ007 · 11-08-2021, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by james11

Just got confirmation that my Z4 m40i is starting production in two weeks. Got VIN and all is green.

Nobody contacted me about missing touchscreen so I assume all is well.
Anyone got communication from BMW asking to give up touchscreen?

Congrats, let's hope that it remains green thru delivery.

COKen · 11-08-2021, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by james11

Just got confirmation that my Z4 m40i is starting production in two weeks. Got VIN and all is green.

Nobody contacted me about missing touchscreen so I assume all is well.
Anyone got communication from BMW asking to give up touchscreen?

Congratulations!

Your best contact point for changes in the build would be your dealer (maybe). My car is now at the port waiting for a vessel assignment, but it seems to be also waiting to have a RAM installed and my dealer has not been getting any updates about my build and the Genius people don't seem to know much more than what you can see on MyBMW.

james11 · 11-08-2021, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by COKen

Congratulations!

Your best contact point for changes in the build would be your dealer (maybe). My car is now at the port waiting for a vessel assignment, but it seems to be also waiting to have a RAM installed and my dealer has not been getting any updates about my build and the Genius people don't seem to know much more than what you can see on MyBMW.

Thanks! I checked with my dealer and he said everything is ok. Which makes me wonder if this touchscreen delete is really a thing...

I read many people waiting for RAM. Keeping my fingers crossed!

HokieBeemer · 11-08-2021, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by james11

Just got confirmation that my Z4 m40i is starting production in two weeks. Got VIN and all is green.

Nobody contacted me about missing touchscreen so I assume all is well.
Anyone got communication from BMW asking to give up touchscreen?

Check your standard features under MyGarage and see if there are any options that start with "Deleted..." that's how you will know if they removed the HUD or touchscreen.

TAZ007 · 11-08-2021, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by james11

Thanks! I checked with my dealer and he said everything is ok. Which makes me wonder if this touchscreen delete is really a thing...

I read many people waiting for RAM. Keeping my fingers crossed!

It is a real thing, but you may have snuck in under the wire.

HokieBeemer · 11-08-2021, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by james11

Thanks! I checked with my dealer and he said everything is ok. Which makes me wonder if this touchscreen delete is really a thing...

I read many people waiting for RAM. Keeping my fingers crossed!

A dealer saying everything is ok is not the same as confirming from the standard features list on MyGarage what options have been deleted or not.

I hope you're right and this it's not a real thing but it's looking more and more real every day.

james11 · 11-08-2021, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TAZ007

Congrats, let's hope that it remains green thru delivery.

Thanks! Green is my fav colour from now on

Westside Guy · 11-08-2021, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by james11

Thanks! Green is my fav colour from now on

Good luck!

james11 · 11-08-2021, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by HokieBeemer

Check your standard features under MyGarage and see if there are any options that start with "Deleted..." that's how you will know if they removed the HUD or touchscreen.

We don't have access to MyGarage in Europe. Tried it already :-) My dealer is good friend of mine, he checked and all is well. Plus I should get some papers to sign to give up the option I paid for. Fortunately I didn't get HUD, maybe that's why I slipped under the radar.

Westside Guy · 11-08-2021, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by james11

We don't have access to MyGarage in Europe. Tried it already :-) My dealer is good friend of mine, he checked and all is well. Plus I should get some papers to sign to give up the option I paid for. Fortunately I didn't get HUD, maybe that's why I slipped under the radar.

I am curious, is the HUD something that they can add later on and your dealer installs when it becomes available?

pinky2022 · 11-08-2021, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by james11

Just got confirmation that my Z4 m40i is starting production in two weeks. Got VIN and all is green.

Nobody contacted me about missing touchscreen so I assume all is well.
Anyone got communication from BMW asking to give up touchscreen?

No communication.
It just shows in the "standard" features on the build and online tracker

pinky2022 · 11-08-2021, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by HokieBeemer

A dealer saying everything is ok is not the same as confirming from the standard features list on MyGarage what options have been deleted or not.

I hope you're right and this it's not a real thing but it's looking more and more real every day.

Yeah my dealer had no clue either.
Or so the say....

james11 · 11-08-2021, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by pinky2022

Yeah my dealer had no clue either.
Or so the say....

Thanks, I will ask to check again. Ordering a car nowadays is like walking through minefield. Touchscreen or not, can't wait for delivery.

pinky2022 · 11-08-2021, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by james11

Thanks, I will ask to check again. Ordering a car nowadays is like walking through minefield. Touchscreen or not, can't wait for delivery.

Ask him to show you the updated build sheet.
The fact that he needs you to sign a paper that you are giving up options is a dead giveaway....

Good luck

HokieBeemer · 11-08-2021, 10:28 AM

I can understand pulling the HUDs and the touchscreens...those are both pieces of hardware that are limited in quantity. I don't understand pulling the backup assistant. That's all done with software using hardware that is still being available, that is parking sensors and radar.

Why would they pull an option that is basically just software. You can make as many copies of software as you want.

pinky2022 · 11-08-2021, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by HokieBeemer

I can understand pulling the HUDs and the touchscreens...those are both pieces of hardware that are limited in quantity. I don't understand pulling the backup assistant. That's all done with software using hardware that is still being available, that is parking sensors and radar.

Why would they pull an option that is basically just software. You can make as many copies of software as you want.

Part of the operation of parking assist is selected via touch screen.....
No touch screen......

COKen · 11-08-2021, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Westside Guy

I am curious, is the HUD something that they can add later on and your dealer installs when it becomes available?

For enough money you may be able to get anything installed in your car, but my guess is that the cost of having the HUD installed would be much more than you would want to pay for it.

pinky2022 · 11-08-2021, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by COKen

For enough money you may be able to get anything installed in your car, but my guess is that the cost of having the HUD installed would be much more than you would want to pay for it.

What I don't get is why bmw can't do rain checks.....

HokieBeemer · 11-08-2021, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by pinky2022

Part of the operation of parking assist is selected via touch screen.....
No touch screen......

I see what you're saying, but it's my understanding that anything you can do with the touch screen you can do with the control knob. Also, I thought parking assist was still available, it was just Backup Assist which was removed?

Maybe it was the entire parking assist.? IDK.

I have to believe that if we are losing options due to no touchscreen we would be losing a lot more than just backup assistant.

TAZ007 · 11-08-2021, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by HokieBeemer

I see what you're saying, but it's my understanding that anything you can do with the touch screen you can do with the control knob. Also, I thought parking assist was still available, it was just Backup Assist which was removed?

Maybe it was the entire parking assist.? IDK.

I have to believe that if we are losing options due to no touchscreen we would be losing a lot more than just backup assistant.

If back-up assistant goes away, does that mean the back-up camera is gone or just the moveable box?

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