No Touchscreen on Future Z4s

COKen · 11-08-2021, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by pinky2022

What I don't get is why bmw can't do rain checks.....

I think it would be possible to install most of the option at the plant and then, when the missing parts show up, it would be possible to add them to the option at the dealer to make the option work. The question is how much more would it cost BMW? My guess is that the bean counters told them to just delete the option because the cost to BMW to finish installing the option at a later date would be much more than just deleting it. The problem with this option is the bean counters didn't factor customers into their equation.

james11 · 11-09-2021, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by COKen

I think it would be possible to install most of the option at the plant and then, when the missing parts show up, it would be possible to add them to the option at the dealer to make the option work. The question is how much more would it cost BMW? My guess is that the bean counters told them to just delete the option because the cost to BMW to finish installing the option at a later date would be much more than just deleting it. The problem with this option is the bean counters didn't factor customers into their equation.

Everything's possible, given money. For HUD to work you need HUD specific windshield and plenty of modifications in the car. Unfortunately its not a matter of adding simple HW and coding.
Take a look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoIFjHlxqik

Michal122 · 11-09-2021, 03:01 PM

If you go with z4 m40i you will get the HUD option, at least here in europe but only for the top specced model…

HokieBeemer · 11-09-2021, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Michal122

If you go with z4 m40i you will get the HUD option, at least here in europe but only for the top specced model…

That's what I see here (US) too. M40i has HUD, sDrive30i does not have HUD. Also, at least on the BMW site for now, you can get touchscreen on both.

So maybe the BMW web site hasn't been updated yet. Which just seems incredulous given BMW's attention to detail.

Nothing surprises me with BMW anymore.

Westside Guy · 11-09-2021, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by HokieBeemer

That's what I see here (US) too. M40i has HUD, sDrive30i does not have HUD. Also, at least on the BMW site for now, you can get touchscreen on both.

So maybe the BMW web site hasn't been updated yet. Which just seems incredulous given BMW's attention to detail.

Nothing surprises me with BMW anymore.

I don't think their USA site has been updated. At this point in time if you really want a Z4 you need to be flexible on the color choice and look outside of your local area for inventory already sitting in the dealer lots. At least you will know what options are really installed in those cars.

You also need to watch out for those dealers that are taking advantage of the shortages and charging over MSRP!

Cliff Bear · 11-09-2021, 03:49 PM

I think BMW USA has been updated. Under Standard Features on 3 series, 4 series, X5 (haven't checked other models), touchscreen is no longer shown, just voice and touchpad controller.

COKen · 11-09-2021, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by HokieBeemer

So maybe the BMW web site hasn't been updated yet. Which just seems incredulous given BMW's attention to detail.

I'm not so sure how good BMW's attention to detail really is, at least as far as their web sites are concerned.
If I look at my build on the MyBMW web site, my Z4 is showing "40/20/40 Split Rear Seat"!

BMWGirlFL · 11-09-2021, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by COKen

I'm not so sure how good BMW's attention to detail really is, at least as far as their web sites are concerned.
If I look at my build on the MyBMW web site, my Z4 is showing "40/20/40 Split Rear Seat"!

That's the more common description for SA code 465. Adds to the Z4: Name: D673BF95-60AB-465E-B177-DE889D7CCD67.jpeg
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mdoneinvt · 11-09-2021, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by COKen

I'm not so sure how good BMW's attention to detail really is, at least as far as their web sites are concerned.
If I look at my build on the MyBMW web site, my Z4 is showing "40/20/40 Split Rear Seat"!

I saw that as well and wasn’t sure what it meant but the storage compartment thing sort of makes sense.

COKen · 11-09-2021, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BMWGirlFL

That's the more common description for SA code 465. Adds to the Z4:Attachment 2739143

Thanks for the clarification and it sure looks like a back seat to me.

Kind of proves my point about BMW not doing a great job paying attention to details.

TAZ007 · 11-09-2021, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BMWGirlFL

That's the more common description for SA code 465. Adds to the Z4:Attachment 2739143

Pretty small seats if you ask me.

BMWGirlFL · 11-09-2021, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TAZ007

Pretty small seats if you ask me.

LOL

Factoryspeak = SA codes (Sonderausstattungen/Special Equipment a/k/a Options). My car (black = customer add blue = factory options (such as 465) added by BMW NA as standard in our market:

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The ordering/price guides give corresponding descriptions.

TAZ007 · 11-09-2021, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BMWGirlFL

LOL

Factoryspeak = SA codes (Sonderausstattungen/Special Equipment a/k/a Options). My car (black = customer add blue = factory options (such as 465) added by BMW NA as standard in our market:

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The ordering/price guides give corresponding descriptions.

Thanks, I guess the sarcasm was missed.

BMWGirlFL · 11-09-2021, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TAZ007

Thanks, I guess the sarcasm was missed.

Changes, when made, became visible on the customer site almost immediately which impressed me.

Yes. Missed. Still. Sorry.

TAZ007 · 11-09-2021, 08:55 PM

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Changes, when made, became visible on the customer site almost immediately which impressed me.

Yes. Missed. Still. Sorry.

No worries, but that is impressive.

BMWGirlFL · 11-09-2021, 09:03 PM

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No worries, but that is impressive.

Tracking & anticipating was my pandemic distraction. 6 mos.

Cliff Bear · 11-10-2021, 09:10 AM

So much for the optimism. I just got a VIN as production begins. Touchscreen has been deleted. HUD has not been deleted.

COKen · 11-10-2021, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Cliff Bear

So much for the optimism. I just got a VIN as production begins. Touchscreen has been deleted. HUD has not been deleted.

Hope your car doesn't have any long delays. Don't know why, but it seems random as to which cars have delays and others don't.

Cliff Bear · 11-10-2021, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by COKen

Hope your car doesn't have any long delays. Don't know why, but it seems random as to which cars have delays and others don't.

I have something else on order which won't be built until Feb or Mar so it may be a race for which one I cancel. At least it will keep me busy. And they did add in the 40-20-40 split rear seat so I'm happy about that.

Westside Guy · 11-10-2021, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Cliff Bear

I have something else on order which won't be built until Feb or Mar so it may be a race for which one I cancel. At least it will keep me busy. And they did add in the 40-20-40 split rear seat so I'm happy about that.

How about a clue on this other vehicle?

Cliff Bear · 11-10-2021, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Westside Guy

How about a clue on this other vehicle?

One and only clue: It's a portmanteau. The first word- a type of engine, the second word - a type of car. Cue Final Jeopardy music.

Cliff Bear · 11-10-2021, 10:53 AM

Hoping for clear sailing on the Z4. For many reasons, it's my preferred choice. I rarely use the touchscreen in my Audi for anything other than carplay but I'm wondering how carplay will work with the idrive controller. If it's cumbersome or impossible, that could be a deal killer. Anyone with any experience with that?

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Cliff Bear Private 82 Rep 66 Posts Drives: GLC300, Q8, M4CXC Join Date: Nov 2021 Location: PNW iTrader: (0)	I think BMW USA has been updated. Under Standard Features on 3 series, 4 series, X5 (haven't checked other models), touchscreen is no longer shown, just voice and touchpad controller.
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Cliff Bear Private 82 Rep 66 Posts Drives: GLC300, Q8, M4CXC Join Date: Nov 2021 Location: PNW iTrader: (0)	So much for the optimism. I just got a VIN as production begins. Touchscreen has been deleted. HUD has not been deleted.
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Cliff Bear Private 82 Rep 66 Posts Drives: GLC300, Q8, M4CXC Join Date: Nov 2021 Location: PNW iTrader: (0)	Hoping for clear sailing on the Z4. For many reasons, it's my preferred choice. I rarely use the touchscreen in my Audi for anything other than carplay but I'm wondering how carplay will work with the idrive controller. If it's cumbersome or impossible, that could be a deal killer. Anyone with any experience with that?
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