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      10-17-2023, 01:49 PM   #1
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Maybe the closest we get to a Z4 M

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https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a4...n-supra-spied/
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      10-17-2023, 02:33 PM   #2
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Maybe the swan song Z4 with manual trans and this engine in limited production run? The true unicorn
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      10-17-2023, 03:40 PM   #3
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If they put the S58 in the Supra and not the Z, I’m going to start a RIOT.
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I don't see it as an S motor. I don't see BMW letting anyone re-badge a real M motor.

It's done in F1, but I just don't see it in a retail setting.
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Tend to agree.

But if they did offer it, I would prefer a manual B58. In a Z4.
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      10-17-2023, 05:40 PM   #6
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I believe they did give an X5M S engine to the Range Rover Sport recently but I don't remember if that was just articles stating that it was coming or whether they actually did it. So that wouldn't leave it out the realm that a Supra would get an S engine. It would be rather annoying if a similar Z4M didn't come out with the same spec though.

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Adrian Van Hooydonk (Head of Design, BMW Group) has said Z4 isn’t compatible with the S58 engine — so it shouldn’t be an option for the Supra either
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Adrian Van Hooydonk (Head of Design, BMW Group) has said Z4 isn’t compatible with the S58 engine — so it shouldn’t be an option for the Supra either
You are 100% correct

I was going to post that factoid and then I saw your post
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Could be only aero and suspension tweaks. Japanese manufacturers tend to do this in the later years of their sports cars. S2000 CR comes to mind.
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If they put the S58 in the Supra and not the Z, I’m going to start a RIOT.
I will be right there with you we can get arrested 🚔together…..🤣🤣
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If they put the S58 in the Supra and not the Z, I’m going to start a RIOT.
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https://www.autoevolution.com/news/b...wd-222923.html


Speculation that this potentially new Supra will run 100k+
If that happens a Z4 M would cost even more.
If the media thinks a 65k is too much already for a Z4, then wait till they get a load of a possible Z4M approaching or over 100k.
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Interesting read.

The fact that it suggests the Z4M with an S58 after it’s been confirmed the s58 isn’t applicable to the g29/j29 chassis is interesting.

Would be super cool to get a limited run Z4M though.
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      10-21-2023, 01:10 PM   #14
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The C&D article sounds like a lot of rumor reporting and speculation to me, especially with the BMW Head of Design comments to the contrary for the Z4.
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“While a level of skepticism should be maintained, most of the details speculated in recent months now seem quite plausible. However, the likelihood of some of the specifics depends on how persuasive Toyota was in securing BMW's most potent straight-six engine for this endeavor.”

No one knows, and it’s highly unlikely IMO. The single biggest “specific” is securing the engine. Laughable.

That said, Porsche had created headroom with their prices up 20% for space in the market for a $100k 2 seater coupe. And other similar vehicles are being killed off. I would certainly buy one.
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Guys, I was thinking an M2 manual is the closest thing we will get to an M coupe. Just take the "2" off the car, lower it 2 inches, fix the front end, and take out the back seats. Thoughts?
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Guys, I was thinking an M2 manual is the closest thing we will get to an M coupe. Just take the "2" off the car, lower it 2 inches, fix the front end, and take out the back seats. Thoughts?
chop the top.... lol

I have a hard time with the design of the M2. Too boxy IMO. The M240i looks like the sloth from Ice Age.
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Imma gonna chip my Z4 so it makes 450hp, put bigger brakes on it, stronger struts and shocks and paint a huge M on the back and call it the "Z4Monster"

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chop the top.... lol

I have a hard time with the design of the M2. Too boxy IMO. The M240i looks like the sloth from Ice Age.
Gaw, it's so ugly. The front end is the worst, probably ever, from the M dept.
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Guys, I was thinking an M2 manual is the closest thing we will get to an M coupe. Just take the "2" off the car, lower it 2 inches, fix the front end, and take out the back seats. Thoughts?
I'd consider it if they made it in a CV (only an auto for me though).

I've thought a lot about an M4 CV, even as recently as this AM as a couple of decent local deals popped up in my in-box. But I think an M2 CV would be more fun, even if down on power a little from it's big brother.

Some random render from a quick google search. Not bad looking in my opinion.
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Guys, I was thinking an M2 manual is the closest thing we will get to an M coupe. Just take the "2" off the car, lower it 2 inches, fix the front end, and take out the back seats. Thoughts?
And chop out 500 lbs.
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And chop out 800 lbs.
Good point. 200 lbs would prob be sufficient bc carbon pack drops it slightly to maybe 3780?
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Lose 20 pounds off mah belly
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