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      06-26-2017, 01:17 PM   #1211
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Well, your original reply was very general. I believe you are now saying, based on the date I see in the legalese you've posted, that there are some *brand new* regulatory factors at play now. Ok, fair enough. Though I am certainly not a lawyer, I can see how that may be the case. That being said it will be interesting to see if others who are about to launch diesels in the US - I believe Chevrolet, Mazda, and Jaguar all have new light duty models coming next quarter - will see similar challenges. And the F150 diesel is scheduled for early 2018 too, so there's another one to watch.
Different Regulatory factors which have changed 6 times (enacted/withdrawn/repealed/enacted/modified/re-indroduced) since Nov. JLR and Ford had it the easiest as they took a different approach several years ago.
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      06-27-2017, 09:57 AM   #1212
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Is there any information about a battery update for the hybrid 740?

I heard that a more powerful battery and using less trunk space should be coming... perhaps for the LCI 2019?
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      06-28-2017, 02:32 PM   #1213
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I read some rumors that new 1 series f40 will be selling along with "old" f20 2.0 lci so BMW tests if they did the right thing with moving to FWD platform. This chould also be the reason why they made another facelift with noticable interior changes in 7th year of production. Shadow package is actually nothing special as BMW always makes some exclusive package at the end of lifetime. But as I know there never was interior upgrade with new dashboard.
So my question is: Can you tell us anything about end of production for f20? Is it July 2019 or might be later date?
For us Europeans that information would be very useful as 1 series is one of the most popular BMW models.. Affordable, fun and unique.
Thanks
Seems extremely unlikely they would produce and market two different 1 hatches at the same time. The F20 will probably end production in spring/summer 2019 and that's already a longer than normal run.

I'd be more interested in the 2 series replacement. UKL or CLAR, FWD or RWD?
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      06-28-2017, 04:26 PM   #1214
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I'd be more interested in the 2 series replacement. UKL or CLAR, FWD or RWD?
As discussed a few months ago, it sounds like RWD given the G42/G43 chassis codes. Nothing is absolutely guaranteed at this point, of course. The F22/F23/F87 LCI is just going into production next month, so it may be a bit yet before we see any next generation mules.
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      07-20-2017, 03:07 PM   #1215
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I'd love to know what they have planned for the M5 down the road. Also about the warrantee issues they seem to be having.. Lots of people getting flagged at the dealer for simple things like different tire/wheel sizes etc.
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      07-21-2017, 02:11 AM   #1216
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The i3 news in July update is very good, but I wish they waited with facelift update until the battery upgrade is available. Too many versions...

64Ah
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120Ah
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      07-21-2017, 05:03 AM   #1217
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Ah is a useless unit for energy unless the voltage is known.
In this case 94 Ah is 33 kWh which is the correct unit to use.
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      07-21-2017, 08:22 AM   #1218
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Maybe, but that's what BMW officially call them; i3 60Ah and i3 94Ah
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      07-22-2017, 01:33 AM   #1219
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Maybe, but that's what BMW officially call them; i3 60Ah and i3 94Ah
Markering fluff since Tesla has 75 and 100 kWh... BMW would look too far behind if saying 33.
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      07-22-2017, 08:57 AM   #1220
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Ah is a useless unit for energy unless the voltage is known.
In this case 94 Ah is 33 kWh which is the correct unit to use.
The spec isn't useless because the voltage is known. 360 volts. I'm not an automotive engineer but amp-hour seems like the most appropriate spec to point to when describing the sustained power a battery can provide. This predates EVs.
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      07-22-2017, 09:59 AM   #1221
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It's not sustained power or sustained amps, it has always been about stored energy. Amp hours on standard AA batteries make sense since the voktagd is generally known and all manufacturets use the same units so you can easily compare between brands.
When it comes to EV's, different manufacturers use different voltage which means you can't easily compare battery sizes based on Ah. You must compare using a unit that directly tells you max stored energy. That is commonly kWh although the SI unit is J.
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      08-06-2017, 08:16 AM   #1222
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For the i3 are we looking for a ~120ah battery or something around ~188ah?
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      08-07-2017, 04:46 PM   #1223
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More realistic.
It's an upmarket (!?) Ford Focus!!
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      08-07-2017, 05:25 PM   #1224
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For the i3 are we looking for a ~120ah battery or something around ~188ah?
Samsung are currently working on their 120Ah batteries so I'm pretty sure it will use those.
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      08-28-2017, 12:33 AM   #1225
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Added a sizable chunk of info on engines.
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      08-28-2017, 10:14 AM   #1226
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Thanks for the news!
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      08-28-2017, 12:16 PM   #1227
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Any info on next gen M3???
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      08-28-2017, 12:37 PM   #1228
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Added a sizable chunk of info on engines.
Thanks for the update. I had no idea a 1.2L B38 even existed.

Regarding the B58, wikipedia suggests the 250Kw version is actually called the O0. Is that incorrect? It did seem strange to me that the X3 M40i specs call its new 265Kw version the M0, which is the name the original 240Kw version goes by. I agree it would make more sense if, as you say, all of them are M0 than if only the middle child is O0.

Still nothing about a new V8 family, eh? Rumors suggest that the 8 Series will get a 4.0L V8 which would presumably be all new rather than simply an N63 with less displacement.
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      08-28-2017, 01:00 PM   #1229
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F22 2er - 10/21
F23 2er - 10/21



So does that mean the current 2 series/M2 will last until 10/21? That would be a long overall generation.
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      08-28-2017, 01:06 PM   #1230
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So for the F90 M5 S63 engine, will it be known as the S63tu2 now?
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      08-28-2017, 01:12 PM   #1231
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Any info on next gen M3???
Probably the S58 which is also slated for the X3M.
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So for the F90 M5 S63 engine, will it be known as the S63tu2 now?
I believe the F90 went from Tu 2 to Tu4; wonder if the S63tu4 will be further tweaked for the future X5M/X6M just the current generation was?
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