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      05-14-2020, 07:38 AM   #23
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The DALLAS COWBOYS Are "America's Team" Whether You Like it or Not

So this statement is actually ambiguous, I could make the argument that the USA Olympic Team is actually "Americas Team". But the reality is:
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      05-14-2020, 08:06 AM   #24
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Dak has worn himself very thin with True Fans and Commentators around here, including myself.
After carefully evaluating his stats and performance since entering the league, here is my $.02.....

Although he's good and durable. And I truly believe he is capable of Elite Status especially under Mike McCarthy... He has NOT earned more than $30M a year! In fact, I would cap him at $25M. I understand the "market dictating" blah, blah. But the fact remains that he has NOT defeated the elite quality Teams of the league. He has certainly looked stellar at against average and lower teams. His last game performance particularly against the Eagles last season confirmed my stance.
Jerry may not say it, but I truly believe Dallas would have drafted Hurts had the Eagles not stupidly and out of spite grabbed him instead of grabbing MUCH needed Receiver help. Oh well, anything they do to to help us is a win in my book.
Dak has also earned over $30M in endorsements! Which is more than the vast majority of Players will ever earn in actual play contracts! That big money would NOT have been possible with any other team. So he needs to appreciate that too.
Another thing to note... He is et to make $31M under the tag this season. If he were to get tagged again next season, Dallas would have to pay him $37M! That is far from chump change! He and his agent are being greedy. But what else is new... As long as we WIN, I really don't give AF who's throwing the ball.
he hasnt, but ok... Only people he seems to have worn thin on are the ones that forget the QB purgatory we were in between Aikman and Romo, or ones that just cant quite understand the nature of the qb market. Without Dak, this is a bottom tier team. And while i was somewhat hoping they would take hurts, there were much more pressing needs on the team than having to grab a qb in the draft early to restart the rebuild.

Starting Qbs of Daks talent and age going price is 33-35/yr. Goff got 33.5 and rode gurley/mcvays/defense's coat tails to the sb while being barely more than a game manager. Wentz got 33 despite never playing in a post season and a sketchy at best injury history. Hell, Tannehill just got 30/yr and has been mediocre to average his entire career. Its just the way the market is right now.

The hang up is on the years and terms right now, the money is set at 35mill. Hes not going to take less than what the tag is, ~31.5 + 37-40 next season, which averages out to around 35mill. What his side is wanting is a shorter term deal to capitalize on the new tv money that will be coming in the next year or so, which will explode the cap an estimated 20+%. Dallas wants a minimum of 5yrs so they can spread his gtd money around and manipulate the cap hit in years where they project to be tight on cap space. Luckily, we are projected ~7mill under the cap this season, ~50 next with only 3 starters, Dak, Awuzie and Woods needing to be resigned. Lewis as well if he can learn to cover, and maybe Dix if he lives up to the hype. The team is in a good cap spot for the next handful of years, and can also clear a bunch of cap by cutting high paid underperforming players like crawford.

End of the day, hell end up signing the 5yr, 175mill deal just prior to the july deadline.

As for endorsement money, that is a non factor. He didnt even crack the top 10 last year in total endorsement deals. Guys like Matt Ryan, Cam Newton, Peyton Manning, OBJ did. If you are a star player, you will get big endorsement deals no matter where you play.

And yeah, GO COWBOYS!!! Everyone that says Cowboys arent America's team are commies.
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^^^ Yeah and it's clueless fanboy like you that obviously don't understand shit when it comes to financials of the entire TEAM.

Let me help you... Chew on this...

No team has won a Super Bowl with a quarterback making even $20M annually. FACTS!!!

https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/pat...story-tells-us
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^^^ Yeah and it's clueless fanboy like you that obviously don't understand shit when it comes to financials of the entire TEAM.

Let me help you... Chew on this...

No team has won a Super Bowl with a quarterback making even $20M annually. FACTS!!!

https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/pat...story-tells-us
If you a greedy and want the biggest pay day the chances are you are not going to go down as a great QB and/or win many SBs. Sounds pretty fair and reasonable to me. Also, not surprising. Share the wealth with everyone and the team is better. Glory or Green?
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I don't know if Dak is an elite QB in the real world sense. I can say that in the world of fantasy FB he is right up there now. Since getting Amari and adding Ceedee Lamb he will probably be drafted in the top 5 this year.

As an outsider (who is begrudgingly an AZ Cardinals fan) I like DAL chances of getting to the playoffs and making some noise. Dak, Amari, Ceedee, Zeke and that O line scream points scored. Depends on the D if they can dominate.
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I don't know if Dak is an elite QB in the real world sense. I can say that in the world of fantasy FB he is right up there now. Since getting Amari and adding Ceedee Lamb he will probably be drafted in the top 5 this year.

As an outsider (who is begrudgingly an AZ Cardinals fan) I like DAL chances of getting to the playoffs and making some noise. Dak, Amari, Ceedee, Zeke and that O line scream points scored. Depends on the D if they can dominate.
Oh I fully expect this team as constructed to be the most potent Offense in the NFL easily!
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^^^ Yeah and it's clueless fanboy like you that obviously don't understand shit when it comes to financials of the entire TEAM.

Let me help you... Chew on this...

No team has won a Super Bowl with a quarterback making even $20M annually. FACTS!!!

https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/pat...story-tells-us
that trash stat tells barely 1/4 of the story.

Since mid 2000s, you average at least 1 of the qbs in the NFC/AFC Championship game has been in the top 10 of qbs paid, and a lot of times the top 5. To add to it, QBs that are paid in the top 5 of salaries have made the playoffs more times than not. Brady has been an outlier as he routinely took less than top dollar (even though still typically in the top 10), but guys like Brees, Wilson, Rothlisberger, Cousins, Ryan, Rodgers, Garoppolo, etc. have all had success while still being paid in the top 5. Even Peyton like that article used as an example, was the #6th highest cap hit qb that season, and his APY put him in the top 2.

A twitter thread to read through.

The fact is, the Cowboys are in a few year window where they have the best chance of going deep in the playoffs. They squandered the last 4 with bad coaching, you really want them to squander the next 4 with bad qb play? They have plenty of cap space, the cap will go up, and they will continue to draft well so they can let overpriced FAs go at positions that are not as important as qb.
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If you a greedy and want the biggest pay day the chances are you are not going to go down as a great QB and/or win many SBs. Sounds pretty fair and reasonable to me. Also, not surprising. Share the wealth with everyone and the team is better. Glory or Green?
so Brees isnt a great qb? Wilson, rodgers, peyton?

all of these guys have been paid as the highest paid qb at some point.

qb salaries =/= team success no matter how much the cowboys front office shills want to tell you.

In todays NFL, you need a good offense and a serviceable defense (see Chiefs) or a top qb and a top defense (see pats). To get that, you have to pay a good qb top dollar or get lucky and draft a generational talent in Mahomes. Do you think Mahomes and the chiefs will all of a sudden suck when he gets paid his massive contract?
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Oh I fully expect this team as constructed to be the most potent Offense in the NFL easily!


yea except you need a qb
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yea except you need a qb
At this point... With Zeke, Coop and Cee Dee and this O-Line.... Dalton would be just fine.
Dak needs to get out of the Clouds.
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At this point... With Zeke, Coop and Cee Dee and this O-Line.... Dalton would be just fine.
Dak needs to get out of the Clouds.
dalton at best is a significant step down from dak lol.

Theres a reason qb needy teams didnt even look at him.
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I hope Dak signs this deal as it would be great news for every other NFL team.
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You didnít know who Hader was. And Kershaw is a mess in the playoffs. No thanks
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Mark my words.... This dude is going to be a foking force of nature for our team and defense! I have a distinct feeling he will be "Charles Hailey" ish.
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All in all... I predict at least a 7-8-1 season considering the above and their strength of Schedule coming up.
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12-4 EASY!
Hey, if that was the cost of having an NFL season I would root for the Cowboys with the exception of week 3.

Go Hawks.
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Go ahead and rub it in that the Cowboys are indisputably "America's Team". The article you reference makes a strong case for it.

Now that we have that out of the way, wouldn't you like it better if they actually won more games?
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Technically they could be Mexico's team if we lost Mexican- American war.
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cowboys offered dak alot of dam cake. sheesh
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All I know.... If and when we sign Jamal Adams... It's a wrap!
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