[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by Nitromkv

the spacers wouldn't cause that tho, just brakes that get hot and then cooled too quickly.

Perhaps. I’m convinced the spacers changed the geometry or put pressure on the discs. Maybe it was both things. Maybe it was hot brakes and then a cold rain. I’ll never know for sure, but it never happened on my M3’s with spacers. And it happened pretty soon after I got the spacers and lowered on ACS springs.

[Horseman]

Saw this on Instagram.




At least they are doing marketing for it.

[bholler]

Gorgeous and I would love to drive it but what’s going on with this bezel on the screen talk about lazy. Ugly, and excusable.

[khp3655]

Originally Posted by ModernAngel

Had an ND Miata for years that I loved. Wanted a bit of an upgrade so got a used G29 Z4 M40i that I really liked but missed the manual gearbox and bought a new G87 M2 this year.

Now this finally gets announced. Ha! Wellllll, reckon I’ll wait a few years and likely swap the M2 for a used manual Z4.

I switched from the ND Miata as well. I got the s30 and while I miss the manual, the rest of the experience makes up for it. Plus, living in the city now, where is some advantage to not having to pump the clutch 500 times a day in stop and go traffic. And I appreciate the 38+mpg on the highway, which is better than I got in the Miata.

[TractionControlDelete]

BMW hit this one out the park! Bravo

[TractionControlDelete]

Originally Posted by Nitromkv

I have my name down for one of these as well but I am genuinely curious as to how different the shift feel will be from my MT Supra, which is a good bit better than the current suite of g8x manuals I've driven. Not who had the bright idea of removing the door cards/ center console for the M specific cognac interior. Hopefully that is not a requirement to choose that interior when spec'ing the manual, as the default one is much better, even my Supra has one door card and the center console color matched to the seats. It is a shame they are still keeping this an M lite, if this were closer to a Z4M ( s58 would have been nice but even an uprated b58- say 450-475 rated), + options like full merino, the better brakes and chassis tuning it would be a no brainer, but currently it definitely makes me wonder if it is worth the swap from an A91MT supra to this over something like a g87 when convertible or not is not a deal breaker for me.

The S58 can’t fit in the engine bay

[stlcdr]

Originally Posted by jliuod

I will have to see in person. My Miata was lowered by about 1".
I sure missed the lighter and more nimble handling of a roadster. Guess can't have it all!

I sold my 2017 Fiat 124 (essentially same as the Miata) for the Z4. While the latter is heavier, I found it a bit more planted and less twitchy in tight corners when pushing it. You do feel the weight. The Miata will still win in an autocross, with no issues, but if you don’t treat every corner like an autocross turn, it does handle extremely well.

It’s bigger, roomier, has literally double the power, the tech is light years ahead of Mazda, but is extremely useable.

I’ve said this before; it may be double the price but it’s worth more than two Miata’s.

[RigaTony1982]

Originally Posted by bholler

Gorgeous and I would love to drive it but what’s going on with this bezel on the screen talk about lazy. Ugly, and excusable.

Yeah, wish the screen was a little larger. That bezel area is also a dust magnet.

[GSinILL]

Does anybody know whether this will be limited production, think 1M?

[michal12]

New 6MT, new wheels, new colors. This feels like another facelift. Better than the previous one

[RigaTony1982]

Originally Posted by GSinILL

Does anybody know whether this will be limited production, think 1M?

They said no. Will make as many as demanded.

[MisanoblueZ4]

Originally Posted by stlcdr

I sold my 2017 Fiat 124 (essentially same as the Miata) for the Z4. While the latter is heavier, I found it a bit more planted and less twitchy in tight corners when pushing it. You do feel the weight. The Miata will still win in an autocross, with no issues, but if you don’t treat every corner like an autocross turn, it does handle extremely well.

It’s bigger, roomier, has literally double the power, the tech is light years ahead of Mazda, but is extremely useable.

I’ve said this before; it may be double the price but it’s worth more than two Miata’s.

A Miata now pushes mid 30’s for a cloth top and upper 30’s for an RF. From a new cost perspective I never found the Miata a “good deal” and I bought a new 2013 NC Club PRHT. Cloth interior, cheaper materials for weight savings….its magic lay on it’s fun factor on winding roads at 45-55mph.
My Mazda CX5 at nearly the same cost was a MUCH nicer ride and IMO a worthwhile cost due to materials used and function.

The Z4 is costly but inside there is NO “cheap” feel in any of it, the interior matches a 3 series from the era. I guess with a Miata you see the cost cutting in the materials and it is bottom barrel Mazda, the Z4 feels like proper BMW materials and no skimping on quality.

[MisanoblueZ4]

Originally Posted by bholler

Gorgeous and I would love to drive it but what’s going on with this bezel on the screen talk about lazy. Ugly, and excusable.

This is due to the dash layout of the 2019 era BMW’s. Yes it has some gap there, I believe there may be some aftermarket Carbon Fiber bezel surrounds that might change up that look if needed.

The Z4 has a wonderful BMW interior, it does not have the wrap around screen of Idrive8 and the newest BMW cars but that is a nice trade off as the older Idrive makes for a nice cockpit layout.

[mbanck]

Originally Posted by Argo

While we're at it, I wish the trim on the dashboard would also follow your selection instead of always being piano black.

Yeah that's a bummer, but the central console layout is very different for the manual compared to the automatic, so it is somewhat understandable that BMW designed only one interior trim for it. Too bad it was piano black...

[RigaTony1982]

Originally Posted by mbanck

Yeah that's a bummer, but the central console layout is very different for the manual compared to the automatic, so it is somewhat understandable that BMW designed only one interior trim for it. Too bad it was piano black...

I think he's talking about the portion around the climate controls and the air vents on the sides. Those are piano black regardless of the trim you choose, even in the automatic.

[Tuxedo]

BMW has updated the US order guide

Paper order available

[Kevin45E]

Originally Posted by Tuxedo

BMW has updated the US order guide

Paper order available

Sorry for my unfamiliarity. What does “Paper order available” mean? Does the availability of digital ordering by dealer come at a different point in time or …?

[Tuxedo]

Scan and crop, limited by the app.

[RigaTony1982]

Originally Posted by Tuxedo

Scan and crop, limited by the app.

Looks like the only real difference outside of the manual package is that remote engine start is a stand alone option, as opposed to being included in the premium package. Also, lol @ the standard feature of 40/20/40 split rear seats.

[tracer bullet]

Originally Posted by Tuxedo

Scan and crop, limited by the app.

Dude, thanks for remembering!!!

[Tuxedo]

Originally Posted by tracer bullet

Dude, thanks for remembering!!!

I’ve had Covid this week so death was about my only obstacle preventing me from remembering.
I’ll update when dealer gets orders in bank and allocation begin coming in.

[jdhiro]

I was kind of hoping for other color options. I suppose there is always next year?