[turbotoy4me]

Looks awesome. Nice to see some fresh design language from the mother-ship.

[sygazelle]

Originally Posted by Ghostriderf80

Reminds me of this.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=po...oYW4jesEfsfMM:

When I saw the photo I immediately thought the same thing. Pontiac was trying to resemble the BMW grille and as a BMW enthusiast, Pontiac failed. Now BMW is ditching their kidney shape design standard (at least in this concept drawing) one more time and it looks like a cheap attempt at looking like a BMW to me. Oh well.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by NickyC

I'm a bit lost though, I thought the new Z4 was coming out in 2018 and the official reveal was supposed to be in a couple days.

Right, the Z4 does arrive late 2018 according to prevailing rumor. Given how far off that date is, it is too early for an official reveal. Perhaps you are misremembering details you read?

Now the "concept" is being revealed? Is this actually the car being released or just another concept vehicle?

It's a concept. It isn't uncommon for BMW to build and show a concept vehicle that loosely previews the production vehicle, but with exaggerated features where the designer has taken some artistic license with the car's aesthetic. The recent Concept 8 Series comes to mind - you may recall it. On the other hand, sometimes they show a concept that is essentially a prototype of the production car with very minor changes, such as non-production lighting, exterior color, or wheels. I think what we are seeing in this preview is the former variety, though it would be great if it were actually the latter.

[supra93]

The press release does says 2018.

The aforementioned World Premiere BMW Concept vehicle also previews a new model that will come to market in 2018. The World Premiere BMW Concept will have its only North American public showing on the Concept Lawn of the Pebble Beach Concours d’Elegance on Sunday August 20th.

https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/usa/a...language=en_US

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by roastbeef

i think the brand is legitimately trying to commit suicide.

Maybe if you stopped eating beef for a little while then MAYBE you might have a little different look at the world. Ha!

The car might not be for you. So what. It's a business. If you are not buying, then peace out.

[Patrik]

Originally Posted by roastbeef

i think the brand is legitimately trying to commit suicide.

Sorry, but how so? Thing will be RWD, pretty compact, presumably have a manual transmission as option and hopefully be on the lighter side as well.

The way I see it, this will be one of the few cars that still follow their Ultimate Driving Machine slogan (an assumption based on what we've seen and heard).

I for one quite like what I see, glad to see something else than the connected headlights we've seen on the later models. Some fresh winds

[roastbeef]

unnecessarily bulky and bold lines. the high trunk line tells me its a hard top (heavier convertible) and wreaks of a lexus convertible stink. humongous front grills also follow the lexus trend. its just not for me.

[Huz-Z]

Originally Posted by roastbeef

unnecessarily bulky and bold lines. the high trunk line tells me its a hard top (heavier convertible) and wreaks of a lexus convertible stink. humongous front grills also follow the lexus trend. its just not for me.

Sorry, no. All the data thus far, indicate that the new Z4 is a canvas top. Even the camouflaged test mule, which has no camouflage on the roof, clearly and prominently shows the canvas top in plain view for all the world to see.

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by roastbeef

unnecessarily bulky and bold lines. the high trunk line tells me its a hard top (heavier convertible) and wreaks of a lexus convertible stink. humongous front grills also follow the lexus trend. its just not for me.

Ragtop dude.

[CeEl]

Originally Posted by Huz-Z

Sorry, no. All the data thus far, indicate that the new Z4 is a canvas top. Even the camouflaged test mule, which has no camouflage on the roof, clearly and prominently shows the canvas top in plain view for all the world to see.

Don't feed the troll ...

[emulajavi]

Correct hood line is coming in the Concept Car

Wrong hood line is coming in the Production Car

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by emulajavi

Correct hood line is coming in the Concept Car

Wrong hood line is coming in the Production Car

That's quite the assumption.

We'll see.

[Huz-Z]

Originally Posted by ORIGIN M.

That's quite the assumption.

We'll see.

True dat. I suppose some folks will have a field day crapping on the concept after its revealed tomorrow.

[roastbeef]

Sorry for having an opinion. High trunk line just looks bulky and I made the assumption it was a hard top.

[Huz-Z]

Originally Posted by roastbeef

Sorry for having an opinion. High trunk line just looks bulky and I made the assumption it was a hard top.

Hey Roastbeef - No need for apologies as far as I am concerned. Its entirely your right to decide if you like the car or not and determine if the trunk line looks bulky to your eye. I've been following all the spy shots of the test mule since they have been available on various car sites so I just wanted to point out that BMW has never hidden the design of the convertible top.

Here's hoping that the car is a winner in the looks, performance and price departments.

cheers!

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by Huz-Z

True dat. I suppose some folks will have a field day crapping on the concept after its revealed tomorrow.

Okay Negative Nancy !

I am personally optimistic that this new Z car is going to be absolutely fabulous.

[Huz-Z]

Originally Posted by ORIGIN M.

Okay Negative Nancy !

I am personally optimistic that this new Z car is going to be absolutely fabulous.

To be fair, I never said I wasn't of that view as well; in fact I am of the same view. But as the Z4 in E85/86 and E89 trim has gotten more than its share of negativity since it replaced the much inferior Z3 (which somehow sold like hotcakes despite its performance shortcomings), I expect that others will just pile on it because its a Z4, even if it is bang on.

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by Huz-Z

To be fair, I never said I wasn't of that view as well; in fact I am of the same view. But as the Z4 in E85/86 and E89 trim has gotten more than its share of negativity since it replaced the much inferior Z3 (which somehow sold like hotcakes despite its performance shortcomings), I expect that others will just pile on it because its a Z4, even if it is bang on.

The high trunk line where the top meets the trunk is very similar to the Porsche Boxster.

[tranquility]

Originally Posted by Huz-Z

To be fair, I never said I wasn't of that view as well; in fact I am of the same view. But as the Z4 in E85/86 and E89 trim has gotten more than its share of negativity since it replaced the much inferior Z3 (which somehow sold like hotcakes despite its performance shortcomings), I expect that others will just pile on it because its a Z4, even if it is bang on.

I agree w/ most of that but if it does turn out to be a disappointment, it should get piled on.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by ORIGIN M.

The high trunk line where the top meets the trunk is very similar to the Porsche Boxster.

A car that has a motor there. The Z4 will just have a gas tank there, so why the bulk?

The Z3 sold well because it was simple, relatively cheap, fun and communicative. Really just a gussied up Miata with a few luxury touches. BMW keeps moving away from this, but not with any direction. They've never been as sporty or capable as a Boxster and they've never been as feminine as a TT or SLC/SLK.

Here's hoping the new one is light, like near 3k pounds, has some actual steering feel and returns some of the rawer edges that made the E36/7 and E85 so fun.

[Huz-Z]

Originally Posted by tranquility

I agree w/ most of that but if it does turn out to be a disappointment, it should get piled on.

I completely agree. And if the car is a letdown, I will be among those most disappointed.

[Huz-Z]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

A car that has a motor there. The Z4 will just have a gas tank there, so why the bulk?

The Z3 sold well because it was simple, relatively cheap, fun and communicative. Really just a gussied up Miata with a few luxury touches. BMW keeps moving away from this, but not with any direction. They've never been as sporty or capable as a Boxster and they've never been as feminine as a TT or SLC/SLK.

Here's hoping the new one is light, like near 3k pounds, has some actual steering feel and returns some of the rawer edges that made the E36/7 and E85 so fun.

Also agree. I love my E85 and particularly, the silky smooth and responsive inline six under the hood. I'm hoping this new car is going to finally see the Z4 clearly focus on competing with the Boxster, but we'll have to wait and see.