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      02-18-2019, 07:23 PM   #111
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What is the charge for sending a fake hate letter filled with aspirin to yourself?

Anyone know the full list of what he could be charged with?
At least he wasn't arrested at the border with smallpox! Where are you, sspade?
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What is the charge for sending a fake hate letter filled with aspirin to yourself?

Anyone know the full list of what he could be charged with?
I imagine it's similar to yelling, "Fire" in a theater.

From a legal site: https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.co...ist-Threat.htm

What Defines a Terrorist Threat?

Making a terrorist threat, sometimes known as making a criminal threat or by similar language, is a crime in every state. People make terrorist threats when they threaten to commit a crime that would reasonably result in death, terror, serious injury, or serious physical property damage.
Not all threats are criminal, and not all threats are considered terrorist threats. Though state and federal laws on terrorist threats differ widely, they typically include several common elements.
Threats. A person usually makes a terrorist threat verbally or in writing, but the threat does not have to be explicit nor expressed in a written or verbal format. A person can make a terrorist threat through innuendo or even body language. Some courts have ruled that a person can be convicted of making a terrorist threat if a reasonable person could conclude that the person's actions under the circumstances conveyed a threat to commit violence. However, some state laws specifically require that a person make a verbal statement; body language or non-verbal communications are not enough in those states.
Specificity. While a person can make a terrorist threat through innuendo or non-verbal communication, the threat itself must specifically threaten death, serious injury, or serious property damage. It doesn't matter that the person making the threat fails to specify a method. Also, a threat doesn't have to specify the time when the attack might take place. Any threat involving a present or future attack is sufficient.
Reasonability. The threat a person makes must be reasonable in order to qualify as a terrorist threat. For example, you cannot commit a terrorist threat if you threaten to destroy the state capital by ordering your alien army to do it for you. A reasonable person must be able to conclude that the threat is credible. If you never intended to commit the crime, that's no defense--it's sufficient for a conviction that someone else might reasonably believe that you did.
Terror. Though many states criminalize making a “terrorist” threat, it isn't always necessary for the person's threat to cause someone else to experience fear or terror. The actions of the accused are what determine whether a crime has been committed, and it is not always dependent on the emotions of others. In some states, however, making someone afraid or terrified as a result of your threat is enough to make it a terrorist threat.
Terrorist Threat Penalties

Defendants convicted of making terrorist threats face a range of possible penalties. Some states categorize the crime as either a misdemeanor or a felony, or both, depending on the nature of the circumstances. The penalties involved for a terrorist threat typically include one or more of the following:
Incarceration. Anyone convicted of a misdemeanor offense for making a terrorist or criminal threat faces up to one year in a county jail. For a felony conviction, a court can impose a prison sentence of a year or more. Depending on the state and the nature of the threat, a conviction for making a terrorist threat can result in a prison sentence of 40, and even 100 or more years in prison.
Fines. Fines for making a terrorist threat vary widely. Some states impose no minimum fine, while others impose minimum fines of as little as $200 or as much as $10,000. Maximum fines for making a terrorist threat can exceed $250,000.
Restitution. Courts may also order a person convicted of making a terrorist threat to pay restitution. Restitution is similar to a fine, but instead of paying it to the state, the convicted person pays restitution to the victims of the terrorist threat in order to compensate them for any damages they suffered as a result of the crime.
Probation. In misdemeanor cases, and even in some felony cases, a court can sentence a person convicted of making a terrorist threat to a probation term. The length of the term differs widely, but typically lasts 6 months or more, depending on the circumstances of the case and state sentencing rules. Courts may also order probation after the defendant has served a jail sentence, and may also require the convicted person to pay a fine or restitution.
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      02-18-2019, 08:42 PM   #113
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Don't know the particulars of this letter and whether he sent it US mail but once you stick a stamp on it and send USPS it becomes federal and that opens up another whole bunch of potential charges and fed don't fuck around.
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      02-19-2019, 09:58 AM   #114
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...I also have yet to see a single of the rabid anti-Trump folks or liberals jump into this thread and criticize Smollett for the alleged false statement. Not one.


Well, I'm pretty anti-Trump on most of his non-policy antics. Glad you don't see me as a "liberal", though.

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      02-19-2019, 10:00 AM   #115
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Well, I'm pretty anti-Trump on most of his non-policy antics. Glad you don't see me as a "liberal", though.

I would hardly consider you 'rabidly anti-Trump'. Your posts are generally well thought out with concise points, not a screaming tirade of how evil the orange man is and how the worlds is now doomed, lol.
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      02-19-2019, 10:25 AM   #116
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This isn't going to end well for Jussie......

ussie Smollett has 'no plans' to meet with Chicago police Monday, despite request

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...-their-request

Police sources: New evidence suggests Jussie Smollett orchestrated attack

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/16/enter...ack/index.html
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      02-19-2019, 01:44 PM   #117
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ussie Smollett has 'no plans' to meet with Chicago police Monday, despite request

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...-their-request

Police sources: New evidence suggests Jussie Smollett orchestrated attack

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/16/enter...ack/index.html
Ouch - this is not looking good for him. On a side note, apparently the reasons for all of this according to his buddies in Hollywood is that the cops in Chicago are all racist and out to get him. Who knew?

Oh - and apparently they also have secret torture chambers that the police use as well. Huh?












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      02-19-2019, 03:32 PM   #118
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Yep, his believer pals are turning on him.

My latest prediction:
His lawyers will make an announcement that he has entered a facility for treatment.
I'm guessing they'll say for undisclosed issue but it'll end up being a drug or mental claim.
Of course the issue just popped up out of the blue.

In the meantime, I wonder how many times he's banged his head into a hard surface while saying 'How could you have been so STUPID..ouch'
'You dumb...ouch...son a bitch'?
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      02-19-2019, 03:35 PM   #119
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Get him on GMA again and I'll bet he cries for real this time
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      02-19-2019, 03:39 PM   #120
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Now just waiting for liberals to go apshit like they did when Roseanne Barr made a dumb joke. Waiting on the Empire boycott.
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      02-19-2019, 05:40 PM   #121
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Grand Jury convened and underway
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      02-19-2019, 05:45 PM   #122
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Uh oh for the sandwich wielding Juss.

Police are interviewing a witness who lives in the same building...
Saw the 3 fellers in the elevator together before he nearly got hung and bleached.

Juss, you so crazy.
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      02-19-2019, 05:56 PM   #123
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I understand the rope, but what's up with the bleach. Like, to make him white???
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Elevator tip didn't hold water according to cpd.
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I understand the rope, but what's up with the bleach. Like, to make him white???
This story seems so outrageous, that it is making me wonder if he is being framed. Can anyone really be this dumb?
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Bizarre?

https://www.apnews.com/db3fb999d1a348329999989bae0fdafa
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Let's make a deal?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jussie-...hail-may-call/
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That is super weird....
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I can't recall ever reading about a top prosecutor recusing themselves without a reason.

The hail Mary call was also weird. The two brothers were outside the grand jury chamber about to go in and this call comes and they're told no testimony.
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I can't recall ever reading about a top prosecutor recusing themselves without a reason.

The hail Mary call was also weird. The two brothers were outside the grand jury chamber about to go in and this call comes and they're told no testimony.
Last night and this morning I saw reported that she recused because she knew one or more of parties involved. They did mention without specifics her knowing the new probable defendant.
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Just to play devils advocate, he hired two black men, that he knew, and paid them only $4000 to do this? They can be in trouble as well, seems odd they would only do it for $4000, they don't seem too poor.

He knew exactly where the cameras were for the beating not to be shown, but yet the two men walked away not worrying about the cameras? The two men also left all the evidence open and to be found in their home.

Maybe I just can't imagine anyone being this bad at planning, but I could see someone higher up on the food chain framing him as well.
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fav comment so far on this issue, in general and particularly by way of explanation comes from Wilfred Reilly, PhD on TCT last night:

"....a broader motivation for these hoaxes is that the demand for bigots in America greatly exceeds the supply."
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