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2. Go to any cars n coffee/car meet or even just read peoples mod lists in their signatures on any car forum it's completely obvious most of these illegal tunes & exhausts are installed on road driven cars. 3. Motorcycle community is even worse than cars. Harley just got blasted a few years ago by the EPA with multi million dollar fine for selling illegal tunes/exhaust systems and Ducati straight up sells street bikes straight off the showroom floor with a catless exhaust system in a box. The damn bike doesn't even run well on the stock (catted) exhaust because they know the first thing the owner is going to do is throw the catless system on.
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Maybe the law becomes no cats = four-point harness one the car.
Four Points require a harness bar or roll cage to install correctly, and while not illegal on the street, severely limit the partiality of a car. It would limit the amount of people willing to track their street car and thus gut their cats.
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You think they'll pass a law for the stupids that put bags on their M's so they can be stance bro? I would tackle that travesty way before any exhaust laws.
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The funny part of this whole legislation is that one of my racing buddies fabbed a new custom cat-back lightweight and high-flow exhaust system for my race car at his shop in about two hours and about $20 in scrap pipe...no SEMA vendors/products involved.....
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Funny how many morons here are complaining about companies being able to sell catless exhausts and such. Screw off you drive a bmw not a Prius. If you wanna save the planet dont go around in a gas guzzling sport sedan
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Why won't Congress regulate commercial transport emissions as a place to start, since it will have more - and more lasting - impact. And if you want to go for the fringes, how about all the motorcycles, scooters and - lawnmowers, let's not forget those. Let's cut the hypocrisy if we're really after cleaner air and less CO2.
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With today's technology, it's easy to have a true 50pmg car, that can accommodate the entire family. Your track driving, or aggressive street driving, in a performance ICE car are completely at odds with the goal of saving the planet. Absolutely orthogonal to the thing. I'm just as guilty as the next person here on the forum, and I won't pretend differently.
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Lol yeah sure it can get 28mpg buy do YOU get 28mpg. I'm sure not. I've gotten even 14mpg in my 328i and even less in my 335i. They can also get almost 30 on the highway but they dont because I drive them for what they are, sports cars. If you wanted to get 28mpg you wouldnt have gotten an m3. Your car is a gas guzzler the way youre meant to drive it and you wouldnt have gotten it if you didnt mean to drive it in a spirited manner.
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Regardless of a few people that think they're helping the environment by not buying catless downpipes while getting 17mpg in a turbo 3 liter engine. Tons more people like me will decat their cars and not give a flying fuck about emissions regulations or anything like that. Just like we have for decades now and nothing will happen. I live in a non emissions compliant state and when I lived in one that tested them I just got them signed off. Money talks bullshit walks.
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So really in the end this act passing or not will not make any difference if anything it will make it slightly easier for companies to sell their products but they will be out there for anyone that wants to buy them regardless
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If you feel the need to race everyone on a public road, especially Susan in her Pathfinder, yeah, you're probably driving like an asshole.
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