So whats faster, SMG or 6 speed

marv800 · 05-09-2007, 03:18 PM

Any of you guys here actually drive both, and know which one is faster in the 1/4 mile?

Dammmittt · 05-09-2007, 03:21 PM

It should be the 6, but don't know about real world. I've hard bad things about the SMG. But apparently some people like it...

KL2DC · 05-09-2007, 03:27 PM

can't believe you actually went with brunotheboxer's suggestion...well a variation, but nonetheless

marv800 · 05-09-2007, 03:51 PM

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can't believe you actually went with brunotheboxer's suggestion...well a variation, but nonetheless

You guys rock!! I love this forum!

Carnage · 05-09-2007, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KL2DC

can't believe you actually went with brunotheboxer's suggestion...well a variation, but nonetheless

wow a newbie that listens. He may just do well here.

Carnage · 05-09-2007, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by marv800

Any of you guys here actually drive both, and know which one is faster in the 1/4 mile?

It depends but a good driver in a 6 will usually win.

jbake · 05-09-2007, 04:05 PM

isn't the smg the fastest shifting tranny you can get besides Ferrari paddles? I think SMG with launch control would win more consistently whereas the 6 could have the overall fastest time by a small margin.

jonerik26 · 05-09-2007, 04:09 PM

i driven both..............had an 06 3 series smg and now a 07 3series 6 speed manual.....and i have to say the shifting on the manual is a lot quicker between transitions

canucklion · 05-09-2007, 04:11 PM

how did you come across an 06 3 series with smg?

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Originally Posted by jack1526

i driven both..............had an 06 3 series smg and now a 07 3series 6 speed manual.....and i have to say the shifting on the manual is a lot quicker between transitions

Carnage · 05-09-2007, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by canucklion

how did you come across an 06 3 series with smg?

canucklion · 05-09-2007, 04:13 PM

never mind, I think I've just answered my own question by visiting your garage. your 2006 325 has STEPTRONIC, which in no shape or form resembles a SMG transmission

NaTuReB0Y · 05-09-2007, 04:15 PM

Automatic Steptronic Schitzenatic Rules!

ward · 05-09-2007, 04:38 PM

I drove the 05 330 with SMG, and it was nothing to write home about

the tranny seemed more gimmicky than an actual performance option.

325 Baller · 05-09-2007, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dammmittt

It should be the 6, but don't know about real world. I've hard bad things about the SMG. But apparently some people like it...

The SMG III with drivelogic is the fastest bmw tranny. It is faster then 6spd. I believe its second to the ferrari paddles but its clearly faster then 6spd. I have an m6 and the shift speed in M mode in S6, is pretty much instant. By the time a person driving manual can think about moving his hand from 1-2 the SMG is there and almost halfway through.

///Matt · 05-09-2007, 05:39 PM

They are the same transmission, same gearing, same ratio's. It's just that the SMG shifts for you, and does it very quickly.

It's a driver's race, but the SMG should perform far more consistently. It doesn't miss shifts, either.

FirstClass · 05-09-2007, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dammmittt

It should be the 6, but don't know about real world. I've hard bad things about the SMG. But apparently some people like it...

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Originally Posted by matsarge

It depends but a good driver in a 6 will usually win.

Based on the forum this is in I'm assuming you are talking about the M5/6. If that's the case then the SMG will always be faster than the 6 speed. SMG shifts faster than any human can and in the case of the M5/6 has an extra gear as well.

Carnage · 05-09-2007, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FirstClass

Based on the forum this is in I'm assuming you are talking about the M5/6. If that's the case then the SMG will always be faster than the 6 speed. SMG shifts faster than any human can and in the case of the M5/6 has an extra gear as well.

We could also be talking M3 and in that case, the fastest 1/4 times I've seen posted have been with 6-speeds. Now if we're talking M5 then you're right. The 6-spd in the M5 sucks. New M3, different ballgame.

RaptorKTM · 05-09-2007, 06:29 PM

///M SMG is amazing. i love SMG.

Dammmittt · 05-09-2007, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by matsarge

We could also be talking M3 and in that case, the fastest 1/4 times I've seen posted have been with 6-speeds. Now if we're talking M5 then you're right. The 6-spd in the M5 sucks. New M3, different ballgame.

I was thinking about the M3 SMG vs 6 spd...The M6 tranny is for rich people...which I am not.

FirstClass · 05-09-2007, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by matsarge

We could also be talking M3 and in that case, the fastest 1/4 times I've seen posted have been with 6-speeds. Now if we're talking M5 then you're right. The 6-spd in the M5 sucks. New M3, different ballgame.

Indeed. Apparently the old SMG in the M3 took a whole 250ms to shift.

Edit: WTF, I've just seen multiple sites say that SMG II does 80ms shifts. New comment. SMG > all.

bkms1 · 05-09-2007, 07:01 PM

you guys are nuts i dont know anyone who can shift faster than a computer ive owned both there is no way your gonna shift faster than the SMG Tranny

Del@Creative · 05-09-2007, 07:14 PM

Bring DSG into the park and itsa a whole new game

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