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      02-26-2021, 07:08 AM   #397
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Not another floating rear caliper...
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Anyone know what engine? S55 or s58?
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G87 M2 has me worried.

Not made in home country
No DCT
Bigger in size length wise
More weight
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My M2 Competition is big enough and is heavy enough.
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G87 M2 has me worried.

Not made in home country
No DCT
Bigger in size length wise
More weight
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My M2 Competition is big enough and is heavy enough.
no DCT is a shame. the zf is great but I don't like it nearly as much, slower and less character IMO. I'll prolly wait til LCI and hold onto my m2c for now
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no DCT is a shame. the zf is great but I don't like it nearly as much, slower and less character IMO. I'll prolly wait til LCI and hold onto my m2c for now
M-DCT till the end of production of the US-spec F87 M2 Competition (June 2021). End of an era.
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Trivia: body color of this G87 M2 test car is either white (for example Alpine White) or Silver (for example Hockenheim Silver Metallic).

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Taillights will totally be inspired by the M Vision Concept. Upcoming LCI X3 taillights will be similar to them too.
The G87 M2 taillights will be akin the G42 2er tail lights.

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M-DCT till the end of production of the US-spec F87 M2 Competition (June 2021). End of an era.
I absolutely LOVE the DCT on my M2C.
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Taillights will totally be inspired by the M Vision Concept. Upcoming LCI X3 taillights will be similar to them too.
The G87 M2 taillights will be akin the G42 2er tail lights.

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Same goes for the head lights.

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Every time I see a spy photo of the G87, I love my F87 CS even more
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Loving that front flare. Please let it have a 6mt.
No way there won't be one. Take rate for a 6mt for the f87 was over 50% and a 6mt in the g80 all but confirms it
Agreed, funny how the manual is making a comeback.
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Agreed, funny how the manual is making a comeback.
Hopefully. Or it could be that the few of us left are just getting funneled into fewer options and taking them when we can get them.

Agreed that it's good to see.
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Every time I see a spy photo of the G87, I love my F87 CS even more
You are comparing a regular 2 series to a top of the line model though

I see nothing wrong with the look of the car in the photo...pretty aggressive looking in fact for a regular 2 series

The G87 will look mean...power dome, 1M style fenders...the proportion of the front grill is yet to be determined but I am confident they won't fuck up this time given all the non-positive sentiments pouring heavily over the current M3/M4
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Every time I see a spy photo of the G87, I love my F87 CS even more
You are comparing a regular 2 series to a top of the line model though

I see nothing wrong with the look of the car in the photo...pretty aggressive looking in fact for a regular 2 series

The G87 will look mean...power dome, 1M style fenders...the proportion of the front grill is yet to be determined but I am confident they won't fuck up this time given all the non-positive sentiments pouring heavily over the current M3/M4
No denying the G87 M2 "promises" to be a great car. But, it's bigger, heavier, longer, wider .....

Soon, they'll have to introduce a M1.5 to match the agility and spectre of the E30 M3 turned to F87 M2.

Didn't anyone ever tell BMW executives and designers that size matters? and as anti-climactic as it may sound, in case of the ///M, smaller is better.
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No denying the G87 M2 "promises" to be a great car. But, it's bigger, heavier, longer, wider .....

Soon, they'll have to introduce a M1.5 to match the agility and spectre of the E30 M3 turned to F87 M2.

Didn't anyone ever tell BMW executives and designers that size matters? and as anti-climactic as it may sound, in case of the ///M, smaller is better.
I could see this eventually happening as the M2 and M4 are separated out from their respective sedan variants. The 2 will eventually convert to a FWD based piece of junk, and the RWD 2 coupe will cease to exist. The 4 series coupe may also go away, as coupes are low volume and harder sells at this price point. This would free BMW to make really unique coupes in those two sizes.
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No denying the G87 M2 "promises" to be a great car. But, it's bigger, heavier, longer, wider .....

Soon, they'll have to introduce a M1.5 to match the agility and spectre of the E30 M3 turned to F87 M2.

Didn't anyone ever tell BMW executives and designers that size matters? and as anti-climactic as it may sound, in case of the ///M, smaller is better.
I could see this eventually happening as the M2 and M4 are separated out from their respective sedan variants. The 2 will eventually convert to a FWD based piece of junk, and the RWD 2 coupe will cease to exist. The 4 series coupe may also go away, as coupes are low volume and harder sells at this price point. This would free BMW to make really unique coupes in those two sizes.
Sad but true
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So it seems G87 will have the horrid AMG style iPad rather than a proper dash. More cost cutting from BMW. More disappointment. More reasons to hang onto your Fseries.
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You are comparing a regular 2 series to a top of the line model though

I see nothing wrong with the look of the car in the photo...pretty aggressive looking in fact for a regular 2 series

The G87 will look mean...power dome, 1M style fenders...the proportion of the front grill is yet to be determined but I am confident they won't fuck up this time given all the non-positive sentiments pouring heavily over the current M3/M4
I'd bet money the G87 is going to be fantastic. I suspect it will have manual transmission, CF roof, adaptive suspension, upgraded interior, HUD, configurable rev match, configurable fake engine noise, and be sized between current F87 and F80. And it WILL out-perform the F87, just like the G80 WILL out-perform the F80. I feel pretty certain the G80 is just going to drive too big for me, but the G87 will be a just right replacement for my current F80.
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You are comparing a regular 2 series to a top of the line model though

I see nothing wrong with the look of the car in the photo...pretty aggressive looking in fact for a regular 2 series

The G87 will look mean...power dome, 1M style fenders...the proportion of the front grill is yet to be determined but I am confident they won't fuck up this time given all the non-positive sentiments pouring heavily over the current M3/M4
I'd bet money the G87 is going to be fantastic. I suspect it will have manual transmission, CF roof, adaptive suspension, upgraded interior, HUD, configurable rev match, configurable fake engine noise, and be sized between current F87 and F80. And it WILL out-perform the F87, just like the G80 WILL out-perform the F80. I feel pretty certain the G80 is just going to drive too big for me, but the G87 will be a just right replacement for my current F80.
are you talking about G87, G87C, G87CS?

If just G87, why would they put CF roof and adaptive suspension in it? What would that leave them to play with when it comes to the higher C & CS iterations of the platform?
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Really? I hope it absolutely does NOT have 450lbs + worth of drive shaft, transfer case and axels up front... if you don't know how to drive a rwd car, go buy an Audi
the future m cars are going to RWD on the base, and AWD on the competition models.

not "knowing" how to drive a RWD car is irrelevant as knowing has no bearing on the weather or terrain where you live.

You dont need to hope or argue about it. Buy the one that you prefer and stop insulting others for not agreeing with you.
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Really? I hope it absolutely does NOT have 450lbs + worth of drive shaft, transfer case and axels up front... if you don't know how to drive a rwd car, go buy an Audi
I daily'd a RWD CLS63 through an entire Boston winter with no snow tires.

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