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      07-13-2017, 09:14 PM   #969
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And she was proven to have broken the regulations with the illegal email server.
Broke regulations. What laws were broken?
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Taxes will rise unless your a 1%er

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The correct term is "presumed innocent until proven guilty". It is a presumption, not necessarily a fact. Just because you don't get caught speeding doesn't mean you didn't speed.
Hey MK, Sak has an issue with your statement.

As I said earlier, I was quoting MKSixer, if you have a problem with HIS statement, take it up with him.

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The Emails giveth the Presidency....

The Emails shall taketh away the Presidency!


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The Emails giveth....

The Emails shall taketh away!

Have you checked out the covering on fox news? I read a few stories about this.
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I can be 100% sure that in the US, we are all innocent until proven guilty.
...proven with a thorough investigation. Trump is innocent. Until the in estimation finds yet more evidence.
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As MKSixer said, in the US people are innocent until proven guilty, do you agree with that or disagree with that statement?
The correct term is "presumed innocent until proven guilty". It is a presumption, not necessarily a fact. Just because you don't get caught speeding doesn't mean you didn't speed.
That's right. Just because we haven't caught Trump yet doesn't mean he wasn't doing anything compromising. Maybe your not such a biased old fart after all. J/k of course.
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Good grief, get a load of this nutjob.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-0...ld-blow-russia
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Trumps part of some Russian conspiracy, the clintons are having people murdered, Libtards & demtards, the rubbish you guys seem to believe.
Your country had an election & trump won. You guys are always banging on about America being the beacon of democracy, yet you seem unable to put your differences aside. So much for the UNITED in USA.
Americas enemy's must be having a jolly good laugh.

Hopefully this forum isn't a true representation of American views & values.

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Hopefully this forum isn't a true representation of American views & values.
If only
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You guys are always banging on about America being the beacon of democracy,
Please allow me to set the record straight

Its the leftists that keep blathering on about some mythical democracy

The rest of us continue to correct them and point out that the the US and its state gov's fall into the category of being a republic.

Heck the US Constitution even goes so far as to "Guarantee each of the states a republican form of gov"........

The closest the US gets to democracy is that SOME (not all) of elected officials are directly elected by citizens

Thats as far as democracy goes in the US
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Yes the United States is a republic, but the USA has portrayed itself & is seen by many in the world as 'the beacon of democracy'
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Yes the United States is a republic, but the USA has portrayed itself & is seen by many in the world as 'the beacon of democracy'
There certainly are those that falsely propagate that meme......that doesnt change the simple fact that it/they are wrong.
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Trumps part of some Russian conspiracy, the clintons are having people murdered, Libtards & demtards, the rubbish you guys seem to believe.
Your country had an election & trump won. You guys are always banging on about America being the beacon of democracy, yet you seem unable to put your differences aside. So much for the UNITED in USA.
Americas enemy's must be having a jolly good laugh.

Hopefully this forum isn't a true representation of American views & values.
Unfortunately I think it is. This country is as divided as I've ever seen it. I think republicans aren't happy that Trump was their only option and the same goes for the Dems and HRC. No matter who was elected their base was going to be defensive and insecure because they know their choice was poor. When our only options are a career politician who will do literally anything for power and money and a morally bankrupt business man with a penchant for lying it's bound to create strife because voters are forced to back someone they know deep down is a piece of shit.
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Unfortunately I think it is. This country is as divided as I've ever seen it. I think republicans aren't happy that Trump was their only option and the same goes for the Dems and HRC. No matter who was elected their base was going to be defensive and insecure because they know their choice was poor. When our only options are a career politician who will do literally anything for power and money and a morally bankrupt business man with a penchant for lying it's bound to create strife because voters are forced to back someone they know deep down is a piece of shit.
Good post, that's my thinking as well.

Both are defensive, more so the Trumpeteers as they need to defend and prove more.

The hilarious hateful Hilary's lost so only have a few bits to defend.

From watching a lot of the election process from this side of the Pond, the system over there appears broken, only ever seems to be two parties, no third way etc.

Ours is by no means brilliant (as can be seen by latest election) but we do have variation in parties and political stance.
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Unfortunately I think it is. This country is as divided as I've ever seen it. I think republicans aren't happy that Trump was their only option and the same goes for the Dems and HRC. No matter who was elected their base was going to be defensive and insecure because they know their choice was poor. When our only options are a career politician who will do literally anything for power and money and a morally bankrupt business man with a penchant for lying it's bound to create strife because voters are forced to back someone they know deep down is a piece of shit.
Well said.
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From watching a lot of the election process from this side of the Pond, the system over there appears broken, only ever seems to be two parties, no third way etc.

Ours is by no means brilliant (as can be seen by latest election) but we do have variation in parties and political stance.
I used to think that it might be beneficial to have more than 2 parties....then looked at how well it doesnt work for europeans and decided its much easier to hold politicians responsible/accountable within a 2 party system than the absolute and utter shit show that ensues from an EU like multi party system

I think as more people become aware of the criminal/corrupt activities of the dem party there will be considerably more division....and in all honesty I dont think thats a bad thing

You basically have three groups of people

Folks that want government to do something for them...up to and including stealing from others/subjugating others to accomplish it

Folks that are not paying attention at all and dont care unless something monumental figuratively burns the shit out of them

Folks that want to be free and want government the fuck out of their lives.

Not a new problem here in the US.....

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I used to think that it might be beneficial to have more than 2 parties....then looked at how well it doesnt work for europeans and decided its much easier to hold politicians responsible/accountable within a 2 party system than the absolute and utter shit show that ensues from an EU like multi party system

I think as more people become aware of the criminal/corrupt activities of the dem party there will be considerably more division....and in all honesty I dont think thats a bad thing


You basically have three groups of people

Folks that want government to do something for them...up to and including stealing from others/subjugating others to accomplish it

Folks that are not paying attention at all and dont care unless something monumental figuratively burns the shit out of them

Folks that want to be free and want government the fuck out of their lives.

Not a new problem here in the US.....

I agree with most of this except for the bold part which of course harkens to your bias. Like the Democratic party is the only one corrupt and doing criminal shit. Lol. They're both as crooked as a hillbillies teeth.
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I agree with most of this except for the bold part which of course harkens to your bias. Like the Democratic party is the only one corrupt and doing criminal shit. Lol.
The corrupt ones in the GOP are almost exclusively ones that vote in a manner that is consistent with the Dem wing of the GOP....ie big gov progressives.....

McCain, McConnell, Ryan...etc

There ARE a number of moral/ethical republicans in congress........there are NO democrats that fit the bill.....when was the last time a dem broke rank on a vote?


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They're both as crooked as a hillbillies teeth.
Doesnt that qualify as hate speech according to you progressives?
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The corrupt ones in the GOP are almost exclusively ones that vote in a manner that is consistent with the Dem wing of the GOP....ie big gov progressives.....

McCain, McConnell, Ryan...etc

There ARE a number of moral/ethical republicans in congress........there are NO democrats that fit the bill.....when was the last time a dem broke rank on a vote?




Doesnt that qualify as hate speech according to you progressives?
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The corrupt ones in the GOP are almost exclusively ones that vote in a manner that is consistent with the Dem wing of the GOP....ie big gov progressives.....

McCain, McConnell, Ryan...etc

There ARE a number of moral/ethical republicans in congress........there are NO democrats that fit the bill.....when was the last time a dem broke rank on a vote?
Not disagreeing with you.... it will be interesting to see which Repubs break rank on Healthcare bill.....

too many corrupt dinosaurs still in power....


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...alth-bill.html
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The corrupt ones in the GOP are almost exclusively ones that vote in a manner that is consistent with the Dem wing of the GOP....ie big gov progressives.....

McCain, McConnell, Ryan...etc

There ARE a number of moral/ethical republicans in congress........there are NO democrats that fit the bill.....when was the last time a dem broke rank on a vote?




Doesnt that qualify as hate speech according to you progressives?
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