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      04-11-2023, 11:40 AM   #1673
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No you can’t, answer my original question rather than just asking another one or quote someone else.

Oh, and I already unnecessarily did.
10hp is 1.33% of 600hp. Check my math, let me know if it's wrong.
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      04-11-2023, 11:52 AM   #1674
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10hp is 1.33% of 600hp. Check my math, let me know if it's wrong.
Still going to continue with no direct answer. The car doesn’t have 600hp for the 10th time it’s 591hp. 600 is in PS. I thought you said you can read? Clearly not.

Even worse, the f10 m5 also used the s63tu engine and had only 552hp.

Still waiting for my answer though, let me know when you have one, or feel free to move on.
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      04-11-2023, 12:11 PM   #1675
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      04-11-2023, 12:12 PM   #1676
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Still going to continue with no direct answer. The car doesn’t have 600hp for the 10th time it’s 591hp. 600 is in PS. I thought you said you can read? Clearly not.
Going from 591hp to 627hp of the CS adds 36hp, or 6.1%. I hope you can understand that 6.1% is less than 10%.
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Even worse, the f10 m5 also used the s63tu engine and had only 552hp.
S63B44T0. While F90 uses S63B44T4 - a very different engine.
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      04-15-2023, 10:52 AM   #1677
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After taking another look at your list on the front page does your info mean that the current 4 series ICE models including the M4 will be discontinued after this generation?
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      04-15-2023, 02:10 PM   #1678
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After taking another look at your list on the front page does your info mean that the current 4 series ICE models including the M4 will be discontinued after this generation?
I don't believe so, however, there's no good information about the successor yet.
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      04-16-2023, 10:32 AM   #1679
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Don't all versions of the G8X come with the S58B30T0? They range from 453hp in the M2, up through 550hp in the 3.0 CSL. Or 543 for the M3 CS, if we put the 3.0 off limits since it's not really a production car. 453-->543 is a 20% increase with just a factory tune.
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      04-16-2023, 11:05 AM   #1680
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Don't all versions of the G8X come with the S58B30T0? They range from 453hp in the M2, up through 550hp in the 3.0 CSL. Or 543 for the M3 CS, if we put the 3.0 off limits since it's not really a production car. 453-->543 is a 20% increase with just a factory tune.
Officially, G80 and G82 manuals and 3.0 CSL use S58B30O0. So what we have with S58 is this:

S58T is designed to produce in the neighborhood of 500hp. Used in M2, it is intentionally detuned to 453hp. And this sequence of events is the key difference from the dumb argument above: the more powerful original version is released first, and then it gets a less powerful version. So yeah, it's a 10% change but in the totally wrong direction.

S58O, on the other hand, does indeed end up with a large jump (473hp->553hp), however, the 3.0 CSL is a unique hand-built car, and even if the engines are not hand-built (I wasn't following the PR too closely, not sure if this was discussed), BMW has certainly gone through a selection process for those 50 engines that is not, and can't reasonably be done for the regular manufacturing line production.
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I have been laughing at this for ten minutes flat

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Seriously, how could anyone top that, it's kinda Biblical - I was ALWAYS here



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I have been laughing at this for ten minutes flat

You Sir, made my day 👏👏👏



Seriously, how could anyone top that, it's kinda Biblical - I was ALWAYS here



I'm still laughing

I myself am still laughing at the halal bacon knife story from 6 months ago.
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- G45/G97 X3, iX3, X3M, Spartanburg, 8/24-10/33.
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- NA5 iX3, Hungary and SLP, 8/25-10/33 (again, SLP starts with a delay of over a year).
Will there be both a G45 iX3 and a NA5 iX3 simultaneously?
That will be confusing...

Or maybe there will be no G45 iX3 and just the NA5 one?
In that case, there will be two different X3 platforms, one NA5 (Neue Klasse?) and on G-series?

I'm confused.
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Will there be both a G45 iX3 and a NA5 iX3 simultaneously?
That will be confusing...

Or maybe there will be no G45 iX3 and just the NA5 one?
In that case, there will be two different X3 platforms, one NA5 (Neue Klasse?) and on G-series?

I'm confused.
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Definitely two different platforms in the same segment. This source is possibly wrong about G45 iX3. I should understand this better soon.
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Is the F66 still UKL based vehicle? Not offering manual is not in line with their manual driving school campaign.
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Is the rumored hp increase for the MY2024 G80 xDrive? Which allocations should come out on April 28th? Built July+
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Is the rumored hp increase for the MY2024 G80 xDrive? Which allocations should come out on April 28th? Built July+
Calendar year 2024. MY 2025
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Any news about major X5 DESIGN CHANGE saw drafts of new sticking X2
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Love this Thread and been following a while now. Thank you so much for all the information ynguldyn

I hope you can answer this because i am interested in the new 1 series.

Will the F70 be a new model or will it be some sort of bigger facelift of the F40?

I believe the F70 will receive OS9, no bmw controller. Do you have any information on that?

Cheers and greetings from Munich
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      05-08-2023, 03:58 PM   #1691
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Hi everyone,

New here and really like all the infos!

Does anyone know if the M3 touring will get a facelift or maybe a CS version or if it’s more like a one shot before a totally new one much later?

Thanks and greeting forme Switzerland
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Any updates to the G01 for MY24? Specifically around trim/color options.
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      05-10-2023, 02:29 PM   #1693
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The "i" in the model names of gas engine cars seems to be going away.
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      05-10-2023, 04:29 PM   #1694
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Unsure if it was added later to the program, but G60/1 540d xDrive is coming later after the launch
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