[GerryC]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

Haha nope. You forgot about the Starbucks line for 10 minutes.

And I had the car in comfort mode on 45 mph windy roads with lots of elevation changes just running through the gears and leaving in higher rpm’s. No full acceleration- still breaking tires in.

Only 10 minutes in Starbuck's line? That's pretty good compared to the ones around here. They'll definitely kill your average speed.

[ebirotedu]

It’s worse inside the store. I used to go there for just plain old hot coffe, but they seem to have forgotten how to make that without a 10-15 minute wait behind all the fancy drinks that only taste like coffee.

😂

Originally Posted by GerryC

Only 10 minutes in Starbuck's line? That's pretty good compared to the ones around here. They'll definitely kill your average speed.

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by ebirotedu

It’s worse inside the store. I used to go there for just plain old hot coffe, but they seem to have forgotten how to make that without a 10-15 minute wait behind all the fancy drinks that only taste like coffee.

😂

Haha. I do cold brew and pretty much have it down to a science as to when the crowds aren’t there. You can also order ahead. 10 min is a long wait but I was enjoying the weather and didn’t care

[MisanoblueZ4]

Auto start/stop would have preserved your gas mileage in Starbucks line 🤔 😆

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by MisanoblueZ4

Auto start/stop would have preserved your gas mileage in Starbucks line 🤔 😆

I used it. Like I said, spirited driving

[Argo]

Originally Posted by ebirotedu

It’s worse inside the store. I used to go there for just plain old hot coffe, but they seem to have forgotten how to make that without a 10-15 minute wait behind all the fancy drinks that only taste like coffee.

😂

Why not order ahead in the app and just get down and pick it up?

[ebirotedu]

Easy. Because it’s coffee. If they need to pour it in advance of me arriving it’s sitting around getting cold. There’s zero prep work involved.

Their name nothwithstanding, they’re not really about just coffee anymore.

Originally Posted by Argo

Why not order ahead in the app and just get down and pick it up?

[Argo]

Originally Posted by ebirotedu

Easy. Because it’s coffee. If they need to pour it in advance of me arriving it’s sitting around getting cold. There’s zero prep work involved.

There's ways to time the order to minimize wait. I do have to say, I'm one of those people that needs to wait for 5-10 minutes for the coffee to cool down before I can drink it, so for me it being warm but not excessively hot when I get there is a huge plus.

[ebirotedu]

That’s a good suggestion, though I do like my coffee super hot.

That said, I pretty much cut the cord to Starbucks during the pandemic as I happened to live near the only store that Starbucks actually shut down within 5-10 miles. That and I was already cutting back on my coffee consumption as well, so fewer opportunities and less need! I drink my one K-Cup of regular coffee at home in the morning, and then it’s maybe another decaf K-cup and done for the day.

I’ve only been in that same store a couple times post-pandemic, and I had to wait a long time for a basic coffee. Pre-pandemic the cashier usually handled plain coffee drinks so they didn’t get queued up behind the things that take time. But they seem to have forgotten how to do that.

Originally Posted by Argo

There's ways to time the order to minimize wait. I do have to say, I'm one of those people that needs to wait for 5-10 minutes for the coffee to cool down before I can drink it, so for me it being warm but not excessively hot when I get there is a huge plus.

[StanDiego]

. . . so maybe we need to start a coffee ordering thread.

[Westside Guy]

Originally Posted by StanDiego

. . . so maybe we need to start a coffee ordering thread.

Are you trying to say we have gone off topic again?

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by StanDiego

. . . so maybe we need to start a coffee ordering thread.

Let’s do it!

[Bimmerfun82]

OK gents I did a 130 mile visit to the mountains & got 25.1 mpg per the app.
Also hit 10,000 miles!

[MisanoblueZ4]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

OK gents I did a 130 mile visit to the mountains & got 25.1 mpg per the app.
Also hit 10,000 miles!

Nice! What mode were you in mostly?

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by MisanoblueZ4

Nice! What mode were you in mostly?

So it was actually 150 miles! I’m going to estimate:
Comfort: 10%
Adaptive: 30%
Eco pro: 30%
Sport+: 30%

[MisanoblueZ4]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

So it was actually 150 miles! I’m going to estimate:
Comfort: 10%
Adaptive: 30%
Eco pro: 30%
Sport+: 30%

Any difference between ECO PRO and adaptive? I think adaptive is supposed to make use of ECO on steady state highways

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by MisanoblueZ4

Any difference between ECO PRO and adaptive? I think adaptive is supposed to make use of ECO on steady state highways

Eco pro disengages the “clutch” so you coast, but adaptive does a great job on the mileage. We’ve had a lot of discussion on this topic. I wish I knew more about the magic of adaptive. If I don’t need to accelerate much/often, I use eco pro. Especially handy with adaptive cruise.

[Westside Guy]

Originally Posted by MisanoblueZ4

Any difference between ECO PRO and adaptive? I think adaptive is supposed to make use of ECO on steady state highways

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

Eco pro disengages the “clutch” so you coast, but adaptive does a great job on the mileage. We’ve had a lot of discussion on this topic. I wish I knew more about the magic of adaptive. If I don’t need to accelerate much/often, I use eco pro. Especially handy with adaptive cruise.

I drove the exact same 110 mile trip from Hallandale Beach to Naples a few days apart. One trip was 100% in Eco Mode and the other was totally in Adaptive Mode. I had the exact same 35.4 mpg result using either mode. Unless I need to show off my car by driving in Sports Plus Mode I normally have my car in Adaptive Mode.

[Bimmerfun82]

Proof!!! Good work

[StanDiego]

Originally Posted by Westside Guy

I drove the exact same 110 mile trip from Hallandale Beach to Naples a few days apart. One trip was 100% in Eco Mode and the other was totally in Adaptive Mode. I had the exact same 35.4 mpg result using either mode. Unless I need to show off my car by driving in Sports Plus Mode I normally have my car in Adaptive Mode.

That doesn't surprise me. I recently took a 60ish mile roundtrip, 2/3 rural 1/3 small town streets, 100% Eco Pro one way then 100% Comfort on the return. According to the vehicle data, I got 2 mpg better fuel economy in Comfort than in Eco Pro (with auto start/stop enabled), a bit of a surprise.

FWIW, preliminary results based on September's summary suggest BMW's calculations are optimistic. My calculations based on actual data is around 2 mpg lower than BMW's calculations. I plan to monitor over the next couple of months to see if the trend continues.

[PSQ777]

Originally Posted by StanDiego

That doesn't surprise me. I recently took a 60ish mile roundtrip, 2/3 rural 1/3 small town streets, 100% Eco Pro one way then 100% Comfort on the return. According to the vehicle data, I got 2 mpg better fuel economy in Comfort than in Eco Pro (with auto start/stop enabled), a bit of a surprise.

FWIW, preliminary results based on September's summary suggest BMW's calculations are optimistic. My calculations based on actual data is around 2 mpg lower than BMW's calculations. I plan to monitor over the next couple of months to see if the trend continues.

I did something similar recently during a 400 mile trip. I was interested to see if Eco Pro made any difference vs Adaptive on the UK motorways. And apparently it was negligible. I was still getting around 35mpg. I'll be staying with Adaptive.

[Westside Guy]

Originally Posted by PSQ777

I did something similar recently during a 400 mile trip. I was interested to see if Eco Pro made any difference vs Adaptive on the UK motorways. And apparently it was negligible. I was still getting around 35mpg. I'll be staying with Adaptive.

Since I discovered it, Adaptive has been my mode of choice. I can get all the power I want if I need to pass somebody on the highway when I push really hard on the accelerator pedal while my car is not as powerful in the same type of passing scenario using Eco Pro mode.