[Westside Guy]

Originally Posted by Rcasa20

Seems like all the video reviews of the HK are less than stellar. Is it worth the $875 or just a case of if spending this much what’s another option? Thanks.

There is no definitive answer to this question. Some of us like the HK system and others think the base system is perfectly fine.

I have it and think it is worth the additional cost.

[MisanoblueZ4]

Originally Posted by Rcasa20

Seems like all the video reviews of the HK are less than stellar. Is it worth the $875 or just a case of if spending this much what’s another option? Thanks.

The HK is alright, more wattage then base system, I suppose that’s a good thing.

I passed on other CPO Z4 cause they lacked it, for resale it’s nice to have.

[Rcasa20]

Originally Posted by MisanoblueZ4

The HK is alright, more wattage then base system, I suppose that’s a good thing.

I passed on other CPO Z4 cause they lacked it, for resale it’s nice to have.

I normally trade in my cars so that won't matter but the more wattage may mean it's easier to hear phone calls through the HK system. Guess for $875 it's a throw away and I'll give it a chance. Thank you!

[Westside Guy]

Originally Posted by Rcasa20

I normally trade in my cars so that won't matter but the more wattage may mean it's easier to hear phone calls through the HK system. Guess for $875 it's a throw away and I'll give it a chance. Thank you!

At the end of the day, the music source (ie, lossless audio) and type of music you enjoy does affect your perception of how good the music sounds. 😉

[Rcasa20]

Originally Posted by Westside Guy

At the end of the day, the music source (ie, lossless audio) and type of music you enjoy does affect your perception of how good the music sounds. 😉

Makes sense, thanks. I’ll likely be listening to the burbles more than music. Yacht Rock Radio for the win when the hits are flowing though!!

[Rcasa20]

Originally Posted by FrostyWinters

25ZB Base Z4 M40i - $66,450
ZDA Driving Assistance Pkg - $700
ZED Manual - $3500
ZHO Shadowline Pkg (basically adaptive headlights on manual Z4) - $550
ZPP Premium Pkg - $1250
3YA Moonlight Soft Top - $250
688 Harmon Karden - $875
6NW Wireless Charging - $200

Getting a new non-hybrid inline-6, front-engine, rear-wheel drive, convertible 2-seater in 2024 - Priceless.

My dealer tried to tell me some of these numbers are bogus. Can’t wait to see their face if the above is accurate as I suspect they are!

[Argo]

Originally Posted by Westside Guy

At the end of the day, the music source (ie, lossless audio) and type of music you enjoy does affect your perception of how good the music sounds. 😉

The difference between lossless and high bitrate compressed audio actually quite small and cannot be resolved by most systems.

As someone who got the HK audio, I don't think it's capable enough for lossless to come into play. That said, if you're using a low bitrate path you will notice it.

[Westside Guy]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but Apple Music does give you lossless audio.

Also, there are some satellite radio stations that do the same.

[blue135]

Numbers from my sales order match those Rcasa quoted, except that I did not include charger or ZHO which means I do not have adaptive headlights.

[FrostyWinters]

Originally Posted by Rcasa20

My dealer tried to tell me some of these numbers are bogus. Can’t wait to see their face if the above is accurate as I suspect they are!

I could send you my order sheet and you can tell them to shove it.

That aside... Checked the status today. It's now in 151 "Exterior body assembly begins." Thought production isn't supposed to start until March?!

Edit: Now with a screenshot

[Rcasa20]

Originally Posted by FrostyWinters

I could send you my order sheet and you can tell them to shove it.

That aside... Checked the status today. It's now in 151 "Exterior body assembly begins." Thought production isn't supposed to start until March?!

I sent them the pricing guide with my order. Would love to see them try to tell me it is wrong!!

[Ex_Stig]

Originally Posted by FrostyWinters

I could send you my order sheet and you can tell them to shove it.

That aside... Checked the status today. It's now in 151 "Exterior body assembly begins." Thought production isn't supposed to start until March?!

That’s odd, but I think my M5 CS went into production before the scheduled date as well. Or, maybe it’s just a computer logging the vin. Either way, I checked mine and it hasn’t progressed.

[FrostyWinters]

Originally Posted by Rcasa20

I sent them the pricing guide with my order. Would love to see them try to tell me it is wrong!!

Guess they are used to selling SUVs right off the lot. Try working with another dealer?

[GerryC]

Production dates are the date the car goes through final assembly. "Production Begins" is about 2 weeks prior to the production date. It means all parts have been allocated and are queued in the system. At that point a VIN is assigned to the vehicle. Exterior body assembly begins about a week later. That takes about a day followed by 4-5 days in paint before assembly begins, which takes less than a day.

[Argo]

Mine took a bit over a week in paint last September, so it varies.

Here's my full schedule as tracked by me:

2023/08/12 Agreed to purchase
2023/08/14 Received production number
2023/08/14 Order Accepted
2023/08/31 Updated to add Harman Kardon
2023/08/31 Scheduled for Production
2023/09/07 Production Begins
2023/09/12 Exterior Body Assembly Begins
2023/09/13 In the Paint Booth
2023/09/21 Entering Assembly Line
2023/09/22 Assembly In Progress
2023/09/22 Quality Check
2023/09/25 Final Assembly
2023/09/25 Ready for Transport
2023/09/25 Awaiting Carrier Assignment
2023/09/28 Dispatched From Factory
2023/09/30 At the Port
2023/10/11 In Transit
Loaded to Wild Rose Leader (left port 10/8, crossed Panama Canal 11/1, arrived Port Hueneme 11/11)
2023/11/12 At the Port
2023/11/15 In Transit
2023/11/16 At the Dealership

[IcewaterPete]

Originally Posted by Rcasa20

Seems like all the video reviews of the HK are less than stellar. Is it worth the $875 or just a case of if spending this much what’s another option? Thanks.

I always get the HK radios, but they aren't really good. The base radio system is of course even worse. At the end of the day I buy these cars for the driving dynamics so I have learned to set aside the lackluster audio.

I'd say if you are an audiophile save the $875 and go aftermarket.

[tracer bullet]

Originally Posted by blue135

Numbers from my sales order match those Rcasa quoted, except that I did not include charger or ZHO which means I do not have adaptive headlights.

I wasn't planning to order them either. It's $550 for that, it won't break the budget but I realize I actually rarely drive at night and when I do I tend to take my X3. Neat feature but I don't think I (or other drivers on the road) will get much use out of it.

Originally Posted by IcewaterPete

I always get the HK radios, but they aren't really good. The base radio system is of course even worse. At the end of the day I buy these cars for the driving dynamics so I have learned to set aside the lackluster audio.

I'd say if you are an audiophile save the $875 and go aftermarket.

I don't disagree. I've found that, for my music anyhow, the only thing really lacking is the lowest octave or so, I haven't measured it but I'd guess that it's around 40Hz and below is where the HK system sort of tapers off. For my 135i I added an amp that both powered the underseat 8" speakers as well as a sealed 10" box in the trunk, and that made me very happy with the rest of the HK system after that. It could be music dependent though, if one wanted really great vocals they might not be thrilled with the rest of the system. I just want loud and clear so it's fine for me.

[Rcasa20]

Originally Posted by tracer bullet

I wasn't planning to order them either. It's $550 for that, it won't break the budget but I realize I actually rarely drive at night and when I do I tend to take my X3. Neat feature but I don't think I (or other drivers on the road) will get much use out of it.

I don’t care about the lights either but for $550 it says extended shadowline trim which mean even more blackout I believe. That I will pay for.

[FrostyWinters]

Originally Posted by Rcasa20

I don’t care about the lights either but for $550 it says extended shadowline trim which mean even more blackout I believe. That I will pay for.

The black mirror caps and "Extended Shadow Line Package" are included with the manual option.

That said, the "Shadow Line Package" adds the adaptive headlights in a darker housing. Without ZHO the headlight housing is more gray than black.

[tracer bullet]

Originally Posted by Rcasa20

I don’t care about the lights either but for $550 it says extended shadowline trim which mean even more blackout I believe. That I will pay for.

Check the pricing guide, Judging by it, you may already be getting those things. If you are aiming for a manual anyhow. The ZED package (the manual) includes the 3BE black mirror caps and the 7M9 extended shadowline trim. If you are not going for the ZED package then yes, perhaps, you may wish to have that ZHO option.

[tracer bullet]

Originally Posted by FrostyWinters

That said, the "Shadow Line Package" adds the adaptive headlights in a darker housing. Without ZHO the headlight housing is more gray than black.

I guess I replied without realizing you already had. Hmm, this is an interesting thing to make decisions harder!

[Rcasa20]

Originally Posted by tracer bullet

Check the pricing guide, Judging by it, you may already be getting those things. If you are aiming for a manual anyhow. The ZED package (the manual) includes the 3BE black mirror caps and the 7M9 extended shadowline trim. If you are not going for the ZED package then yes, perhaps, you may wish to have that ZHO option.

Think you’re right. So, they discounted the package to $550 basically for the lights. Just read about the full LED lights and for that I do want them.