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      11-20-2020, 11:14 AM   #243
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Start with Mercedes twitter feed..plus just about every media outlet
Can you be more specific? As in links...
I think I've covered about every media outlet....

Have you read my links?
Here's one that is more specific:
https://formularapida.net/hamilton-l...g-his-surname/

So no, it's definately not the other way around as I see it.
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Can you be more specific? As in links...
I think I've covered about every media outlet....

Have you read my links?
Here's one that is more specific:
https://formularapida.net/hamilton-l...g-his-surname/

So no, it's definately not the other way around.
You two are talking about different subjects. He's talking about the car swap while you're on the watch thing.
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      11-20-2020, 11:18 AM   #245
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You two are talking about different subjects. He's talking about the car swap while you're on the watch thing.
you're right, i was confused by his 2 following posts.

But still it isn't the other way round, which also shows from the trademark information imho.

whether or not " LH is bothered given his 1/2 $billion bank account" does not add or substract from that the case took place or it's moral standpoint. (in fact, if he's not bothered for the money, it makes it imho even more despicable; let's just let a company that has made watches for well over 100 years do it's thing...They also have personell to pay, that have families etc you know..)
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      11-20-2020, 11:57 AM   #246
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But still it isn't the other way round, which also shows from the trademark information imho.

whether or not " LH is bothered given his 1/2 $billion bank account" does not add or substract from that the case took place or it's moral standpoint. (in fact, if he's not bothered for the money, it makes it imho even more despicable; let's just let a company that has made watches for well over 100 years do it's thing...They also have personell to pay, that have families etc you know..)
I guess its all about perspective...from one point its Hamilton watches stopping 44IP from pursuing a legitimate business enterprise requiring the trademarking of Lewis Hamiltons name.
The question is equally...why does Hamilton watches care?..its not going to impact their business.

It sort of reminds me of the numerous legal cases McDonalds have pursued against small businesses that have used the letters Mc in front of products or even legitimately the McDonalds name.
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      11-20-2020, 12:12 PM   #247
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I guess its all about perspective...from one point its Hamilton watches stopping 44IP from pursuing a legitimate business enterprise requiring the trademarking of Lewis Hamiltons name.
The info from trademarkelite clearly shows that it was the trademark (for class 35/37 businesses) of the watch company Hamilton (in Biel) that was sued and not the other way around.

Lewis lost because the hamilton watch company was already +100 years in business and had already various trademarks under the hamilton brand.
The hamilton watch company didn't sue Lewis hamilton or his IP44 business (unless you can provide a valid link that directly points to that with quotes from the final verdict in that case)

So there is no "The question is equally...why does Hamilton watches care?"
They got sued. By Lewis Hamilton's representatives.


You're venting here your personal opinion and not conclusions based on reported facts.
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      11-20-2020, 12:51 PM   #248
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The info from trademarkelite clearly shows that it was the trademark (for class 35/37 businesses) of the watch company Hamilton (in Biel) that was sued and not the other way around.

Lewis lost because the hamilton watch company was already +100 years in business and had already various trademarks under the hamilton brand.
The hamilton watch company didn't sue Lewis hamilton or his IP44 business (unless you can provide a valid link that directly points to that with quotes from the final verdict in that case)

So there is no "The question is equally...why does Hamilton watches care?"
They got sued. By Lewis Hamilton's representatives.


You're venting here your personal opinion and not conclusions based on reported facts.
Mate . YOU nailed it !
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      11-20-2020, 02:30 PM   #249
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The info from trademarkelite clearly shows that it was the trademark (for class 35/37 businesses) of the watch company Hamilton (in Biel) that was sued and not the other way around.

Lewis lost because the hamilton watch company was already +100 years in business and had already various trademarks under the hamilton brand.
The hamilton watch company didn't sue Lewis hamilton or his IP44 business (unless you can provide a valid link that directly points to that with quotes from the final verdict in that case)

So there is no "The question is equally...why does Hamilton watches care?"
They got sued. By Lewis Hamilton's representatives.


You're venting here your personal opinion and not conclusions based on reported facts.
I didn't even know about that and so difficult to believe he tried to do that thinking he would get away with it.
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      11-20-2020, 04:20 PM   #250
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The info from trademarkelite clearly shows that it was the trademark (for class 35/37 businesses) of the watch company Hamilton (in Biel) that was sued and not the other way around.
Lewis lost because the hamilton watch company was already +100 years in business and had already various trademarks under the hamilton brand.
Sort of...HI registered the mark HAMILTON on 5 May 2015. On 29 November 2017, 44IP filed an invalidation action against this registration.

44IP attempted to trademark the name “Lewis Hamilton” but Hamilton International (now Swatch) opposed the move.

What I can't quite find out is which occurred first.

Its most likely that this was all about protecting Lewis Hamiltons intellectual Property.
I guess the worry is that Swatch will try to expand the fairly obscure Hamilton watch brand and trade off Lewis Hamiltons image as a world wide celebrity.

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44IP attempted to trademark the name “Lewis Hamilton” but Hamilton International (now Swatch) opposed the move.

What I can't quite find out is which occurred first.
Does it matter which occurred first?

The hamilton watch company held it's trademark because they've been making watches about 100 years longer than Lewis is alive, and that they've had multiple Hamilton trademarks already. This is about class 35/37 businesses. So for example that the Hamilton watch company can also repair their watches under their brand name.
Lewis wanted to prevent that.

If you think Hamilton is a 'fairly obscure brand' then you're clearly not a watch guy.
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If you think Hamilton is a 'fairly obscure brand' then you're clearly not a watch guy.
Me and 99.99999% of the world.
But anyway the actions of 44IP are just another stick for the Hamilton haters to brandish. There will be plenty more.
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      11-20-2020, 06:00 PM   #253
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What are the odds of HAM having a Hamilton watch to two in his collection heheh
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      11-21-2020, 12:55 PM   #254
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What are the odds of HAM having a Hamilton watch to two in his collection heheh
hmmm maybe not very likely.
Lewis is on the payroll of IWC, a watch brand from the Richemont group (one of Swatch' biggest competitors).

Maybe IWC/Richemont saw the legal oppertunity and set up Lewis' henchmen to irritate one of their competitors in court...who knows
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hmmm maybe not very likely.
Lewis is on the payroll of IWC, a watch brand from the Richemont group (one of Swatch' biggest competitors).

Maybe IWC/Richemont saw the legal oppertunity and set up Lewis' henchmen to irritate one of their competitors in court...who knows
I was being a little of course he can have any watch he desires from iwc collection. With Kimi's $1M diamond encrusted example HAM probably has a special just for him.
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He'll be a sad man sitting there on his own for not taking the challenge.
My friend regarding the title of this thread , it should be like :

"Why the car is just more than Lewis Hamilton"
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My friend regarding the title of this thread , it should be like :

"Why the car is just more than Lewis Hamilton"
Exactly, in more (hidden) ways than we know with help from the black/red underpants man in .. FIA/MercInternational Assistance.
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My friend regarding the title of this thread , it should be like :

"Why the car is just more than Lewis Hamilton"
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Exactly, in more (hidden) ways than we know with help from the black/red underpants man in .. FIA/MercInternational Assistance.
There are none as blind as those who will not see.

From the official Formula One website. Sir Lewis has been off the charts and breaking hearts in F1 since 2007. Even Max made his way into the list of victims. More than once. LOL!!!

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...GnFjydTA2.html
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There are none as blind as those who will not see.

From the official Formula One website. Sir Lewis has been off the charts and breaking hearts in F1 since 2007. Even Max made his way into the list of victims. More than once. LOL!!!

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...GnFjydTA2.html
Let us NOT forget my friend , The Merc shows a star and IS actually the star .
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Let us NOT forget my friend , The Merc shows a star and IS actually the star .
Nope.

Lewis Hamilton at McLaren:

Total McLaren Poles - 30
Fernando Alonso Poles - 2
Jenson Button Poles -1
Hekki Kovaleinen Poles -1
Sir Lewis Hamilton Poles - 26

It isn't the car. Any real F1 fan knows this, my friend.
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Nope.

Lewis Hamilton at McLaren:

Total McLaren Poles - 30
Fernando Alonso Poles - 2
Jenson Button Poles -1
Hekki Kovaleinen Poles -1
Sir Lewis Hamilton Poles - 26

It isn't the car. Any real F1 fan knows this, my friend.
Can you two stop flirting

As someone who doesn’t particularly like either HAM or VER allow me to be the voice of reason.

As you all know any success is due to both the driver and the car/bike. As was recently shown by RUS the Merc is a beast of a car BUT HAM can certainly drive as well!

Peace.

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