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      10-24-2020, 08:52 PM   #89
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This is easily the most sadly desperate thing I've seen in 45 years of watching Formula One. Get your own car right and quit worrying about the competition. If he worked as hard with his team as he does on bitching about HAM, they'd be 2 seconds ahead of the field. Unreal!!!
Well my friend . It was actually you ,always you .Who always said It's the driver, the GOAT and NOT the car , but actually as you know is the Merc W11 the fastest car of the field .

Well honestly my friend , HAM has his chance to show it .. Right now !
If I was HAM and I was the GOAT . I would show my driver skills ASAP in the RB16 !
Of course by swapping cars with MAX...

Sadly it won't happen . As you and the GOAT know why ...
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Well my friend . It was actually you ,always you .Who always said It's the driver, the GOAT and NOT the car , but actually as you know is the Merc W11 the fastest car of the field .

Well honestly my friend , HAM has his chance to show it .. Right now !
If I was HAM and I was the GOAT . I would show my driver skills ASAP in the RB16 !
Of course by swapping cars with MAX...

Sadly it won't happen . As you and the GOAT know why ...
My friend, you and the M5theonlyone continue to tell the world how great VER is in absence of evidence to prove it. He didn't beat RIC and has had muppets for teammates. HAM has raced against and defeated 3 WDCs...5 of 7 against ALO, BUT and ROS.

VER is good but he is no Hamilton.

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^ Party mode,das push-pull control,rear tyre temp control wheels, start lights config on dash,,whoops oh no there goes the neighborhood.
All this says to me....Red Bull can’t develop a car.

Where are their equivalent enhancements pushing the limits?
They don’t have any....“We can only compete if you freeze engine development for the next 5 years” “if not we’re going to take our toys and leave F1”
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Negative mate . What we would like is to get the Mercs Party-Mode in the RB16 !
By this we could watch finally a real F1 battle in the front and not just a scene on repeat made by Benz !
So where’s Red Bull’s engineers? Where’s their development? Too busy drinking red bulls growing wings
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As I said already 100 times . To know who is the best : Equal machinery is required !

F1 is not fair . And it will never be fair .
Then Max should goto Indy car or something. Never going to happen in F1, you can cry all you want. Hamilton proved he could win a WDC without a dominant car. Max really hasn't proven anything yet.

It's also a team sport. Even with a faster car and possibly cheating engine, Ferrari couldn't hold it together to beat the Mercs.
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My friend there is great news ! The latest !
Think this is the right place to post it...


Swap Cars ?

MAX to Hamilton during the press conference: « We swap cars. You go into mine, I go into yours then we know the comparison ?
Absolutely the right place my friend.
Once HAM agrees then it will be an interesting showdown and the others are getting edgy already!
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Absolutely the right place my friend.
Once HAM agrees then it will be an interesting showdown!
I suspect that after fridays very unpleasant tantrum from Verstappen aimed at Stroll...the chances that Verstappen will ever get to drive a Mercedes is even less likely.
While Verstappen may say its not his problem, Red Bull saw it differently and gave Verstappen a hard talking to about his childish behaviour.
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I suspect that after fridays very unpleasant tantrum from Verstappen aimed at Stroll...the chances that Verstappen will ever get to drive a Mercedes is even less likely.
While Verstappen may say its not his problem, Red Bull saw it differently and gave Verstappen a hard talking to about his childish behaviour.
I doubt it, VER had every right to be be upset. if someone crunched your M for no reason would you say 'oh never mind' and I'm sure Horner understood his frustration in the circumstances.
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I doubt it, VER had every right to be be upset. if someone crunched your M for no reason would you say 'oh never mind' and I'm sure Horner understood his frustration in the circumstances.
Whats the point of throwing a tantrum after the event?
It doesn't change anything...in this case it just made Verstappen look like a deeply unpleasant person.
The stewards looked at the event to see if Verstappen was sufficiently at fault to deserve a penalty but decided to let it go.
Verstappen doesn't even have the self awareness to accept that the fault was his and at the very least say nothing.
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Whats the point of throwing a tantrum after the event?
It doesn't change anything...in this case it just made Verstappen look like a deeply unpleasant person.
The stewards looked at the event to see if Verstappen was sufficiently at fault to deserve a penalty but decided to let it go.
Verstappen doesn't even have the self awareness to accept that the fault was his and at the very least say nothing.
Come on it was STR who turned into him,he has mirrors and it was a pure schoolboy error. The stewards let it go as one of those things to let STR off as he had just returned recovering from illness.
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So where’s Red Bull’s engineers? Where’s their development? Too busy drinking red bulls growing wings
Never heard of top-secret ?
To make a F1 car faster, the development costs hundreds of millions and are top-secret !
Some call it innovations . Others call it cheating ...
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Never heard of top-secret ?
To make a F1 car faster, the development costs hundreds of millions and are top-secret !
Some call it innovations . Others call it cheating ...
So secret they can’t keep up

Maybe some of the RB budget in excess of $400 million should go into development instead of stoking Max’s already massive ego.
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So secret they can’t keep up

Maybe some of the RB budget in excess of $400 million should go into development instead of stoking Max’s already massive ego.
Mate .MAX can't beat HAM's ego ! "Mission Impossible" !
Regarding ego : HAM is the winner ...
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I suspect a large part of Lewis's success is due to him having been groomed by 'Big' Ron Dennis since he was a little boy
HAM was actually dropped by McLaren at one time.
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Mate .MAX can't beat HAM's ego ! "Mission Impossible" !
Regarding ego : HAM is the winner ...
Max TELLS everyone he is the best on the track. Lewis demonstrates that he is the best on the track. Season after season. Race after race. Qualifying session after qualifying session.

Actions speak louder than words.
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Max TELLS everyone he is the best on the track. Lewis demonstrates that he is the best on the track. Season after season. Race after race. Qualifying session after qualifying session.

Actions speak louder than words.
Don't think so my friend . From what I heard : MAX always said I'll show that on the track ...
But he always said : The Merc is always faster , the RB16 has lack of power and
we are hoping to close the gap...
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Don't think so my friend . From what I heard : MAX always said I'll show that on the track ...
But he always said : The Merc is always faster , the RB16 has lack of power and
we are hoping to close the gap...
What we want is Watneys,no!.. actually the Merc PARTY MODE.
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Speaking of machinery differences, are Red Bull cars wider than Mercs? They sure seem to (especially with VER behind the wheel) hit a lot of other cars more than HAM/BOT.

Kidding aside, this weekend shows why HAM as currently still the much better driver than VER. VER spent his weekend running into Racing Points and crying about who's fault it was. He blames PER "for not giving him enough space?"

Meanwhile HAM keeps his head after a rough start and eventually you see the result. VER freaks out and still tries too get everything back at once after a bad start and unfortunately PER had to pay for his impatience this time.

At this point I'd like to see PER in a Red Bull car and see what he could do. I think the results would be surprising, especially for VER.

Edit: Also, somehow he finds a way to get the hards warmed up quicker/finds traction where BOT (and others) couldn't and falls behind a 1/4 of a lap. I'd rather see other people win to, but HAM is at the top of the game and way ahead of everyone else right now talent wise/regardless of machinary.
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Speaking of machinery differences, are Red Bull cars wider than Mercs? They sure seem to (especially with VER behind the wheel) hit a lot of other cars more than HAM/BOT.

Kidding aside, this weekend shows why HAM as currently still the much better driver than VER. VER spent his weekend running into Racing Points and crying about who's fault it was. He blames PER "for not giving him enough space?"

Meanwhile HAM keeps his head after a rough start and eventually you see the result. VER freaks out and still tries too get everything back at once after a bad start and unfortunately PER had to pay for his impatience this time.

At this point I'd like to see PER in a Red Bull car and see what he could do. I think the results would be surprising, especially for VER.

Edit: Also, somehow he finds a way to get the hards warmed up quicker/finds traction where BOT (and others) couldn't and falls behind a 1/4 of a lap. I'd rather see other people win to, but HAM is at the top of the game and way ahead of everyone else right now talent wise/regardless of machinary.
In other words : "DAS" did a great job today .
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In other words : "DAS" did a great job today .
Yah apparently it helps avoid running into other cars as well all weekend to eh?

DAS wasn't helping BOT stay with HAM. And it didn't keep BOT that far ahead of VER. How about last year with no DAS?

Keep the excuses coming, it is entertaining.
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What a surprise it must be to VER fans when the fastest guy in qualifying ends up being the fastest guy in the race.

Also huge surprise that Merc have better engineers in place to work on THEIR OWN chassis AND motor. And that they secures the best drivers to consistently secure victories and points in those cars.

But let's just keep telling max that he's better than everyone else. What a fucking joke.

Guess what? Merc is now working on their '21 car. Which means Merc will have more of an edge next year. Get used to this.
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