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      11-21-2020, 09:07 AM   #23
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Max is always touted to be the next best thing in F1 and is often compared to the present and future, WDC, Lewis Hamilton. Well, the facts are that VER has 2 pole positions, 9 wins and 9 fastest laps after 116 races over a 5.5+year career in Formula One.

So here is my question: What year will Max win his first WDC?

And please feel free to add any commentary?
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My friend that's pretty simple : The day/year that Mercedes is stopping cheating .

In one word ?

"NEVER"
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My friend that's pretty simple : The day/year that Mercedes is stopping cheating .

In one word ?

"NEVER"
LOL!

My friend, you support one of the most cheating teams in all of F1. Please show me where Mercedes has cheated. I'll wait.
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LOL!

My friend, you support one of the most cheating teams in all of F1. Please show me where Mercedes has cheated. I'll wait.
1- Mercs Party Mode software-related (100 + HP)
2- DAS
3- Tire cooling system in wheels
4- Automatic launch control (start lights controller)

No wait ! These are just F1 Merc inventions .

Merc runs with it , while the other teams didn't had it ...

My friend ,Jean Todt is a F* clown ! And financial speculation is all over the place !

Good job by Mercedes !
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Missing an option for ďNeverĒ otherwise I would have voted for that.

He wonít win while Hamilton is still around, then when Hamilton retires there will be someone else that will enter the sport in the next couple years that will outperform Max.
Sure mate . Bottas in a cheating Merc can do it !
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1- Mercs Party Mode software-related (100 + HP)
2- DAS
3- Tire cooling system in wheels
4- Automatic launch control (start lights controller)
mate each team had a quali mode.. DAS is a pure invention.. other teams could do such cooling or heating tire techs as well.. and the last one sorry but its just fictional..
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1- Mercs Party Mode software-related (100 + HP)
2- DAS
3- Tire cooling system in wheels
4- Automatic launch control (start lights controller)

No wait ! These are just F1 Merc inventions .

Merc runs with it , while the other teams didn't had it ...

My friend ,Jean Todt is a F* clown ! And financial speculation is all over the place !

Good job by Mercedes !
Yeah....none of those first 3 are cheating. And, as has already been said, number 4 is just a ridiculous stretch.
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Sure mate . Bottas in a cheating Merc can do it !
Mate you live in a fantasy world. Iím just happy youíre happy living in it.

As your hero says, 2nd place is the first loser, so what does that make Max?
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Once Lewis retires or suffers the indignity of being relegated to driving for a 'b' team...if at all.
I suspect that Max will end up becoming a 'nearly' man
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Mate you live in a fantasy world. Iím just happy youíre happy living in it.

As your hero says, 2nd place is the first loser, so what does that make Max?
Yeah the 2nd place is the first loser . And in this season Bottas is the first loser .
As we know It's really easy to beat Bottas . That's why HAM took the WDC in the fastest car of the decade !
Driver skills are not required to beat BOT , that's NOT a fantasy . It's the reality !
In short : Bottas is HAM's honey bee ...


MAX ?
He's the only driver of the field who is able to split the Merc clowns !
The rest just drives out of sight to fill the field in the background ...
That's what we call a today's F1 race !

Time to wake up mate !
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LOL!

My friend, you support one of the most cheating teams in all of F1. Please show me where Mercedes has cheated. I'll wait.
The only blemish I can remember on Mercedes record is when they did their "illegal" tire test after Barcelona in 2013, for which they were penalized (albeit lightly). Other than that, they've been pretty squeaky clean.

It's actually quite amazing how well they've been able to innovate within the rules. Quite the model team
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Yeah the 2nd place is the first loser . And in this season Bottas is the first loser .
As we know It's really easy to beat Bottas . That's why HAM took the WDC in the fastest car of the decade !
Driver skills are not required to beat BOT , that's NOT a fantasy . It's the reality !
In short : Bottas is HAM's honey bee ...


MAX ?
He's the only driver of the field who is able to split the Merc clowns !
The rest just drives out of sight to fill the field in the background ...
That's what we call a today's F1 race !

Time to wake up mate !
I think it's a bit disingenuous to say that Max is the only driver to be able to split the Mercedes. While its true that has been the case this year, the same cant be said of years prior. I think most of us here would agree that if you put half the field in a Red Bull or Ferrari (well, not this years Ferrari), they'd be able to split the Mercedes duo with the a similar frequency that Max does.

Don't take this to mean that half the field is just as good as Max though. He does seem to have a special, raw talent. Just pointing out that there is good talent further down the field that could achieve that. There's a reason why they are in F1 after all
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mate each team had a quali mode.. DAS is a pure invention.. other teams could do such cooling or heating tire techs as well.. and the last one sorry but its just fictional..
No one get's a gantry lights 0.00 start without some prior knowledge.
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MAX ?
He's the only driver of the field who is able to split the Merc clowns !
Unless it was Ricciardo in the other RB.
First two years

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MAX ?
He's the only driver of the field who is able to split the Merc clowns !
The rest just drives out of sight to fill the field in the background ...
That's what we call a today's F1 race !

Time to wake up mate !
The only driver, okay mate....might want to revisit the race finishes.
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Unless it was Ricciardo in the other RB.
First two years
Mate . Where is your teeth man today ?
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I think it's a bit disingenuous to say that Max is the only driver to be able to split the Mercedes. While its true that has been the case this year, the same cant be said of years prior. I think most of us here would agree that if you put half the field in a Red Bull or Ferrari (well, not this years Ferrari), they'd be able to split the Mercedes duo with the a similar frequency that Max does.

Don't take this to mean that half the field is just as good as Max though. He does seem to have a special, raw talent. Just pointing out that there is good talent further down the field that could achieve that. There's a reason why they are in F1 after all
Mmmm...That's really strange . As the Merc fanboys are always saying It's not the Merc , It's the GOAT !
It's the driver , so in this situation It's HAM and not the fastest car of the decade ...
So....from your statement , others can do it as well from the moment they are driving a Merc .

Or put Grosjean in the RB16 and he would split the Mercs ?
While Albon drives a RB16 as well... Don't see him ?
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The only driver, okay mate....might want to revisit the race finishes.
You should do it mate . While you're awake ...
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Yeah....none of those first 3 are cheating. And, as has already been said, number 4 is just a ridiculous stretch.
It was under investigation and just disappeared ! This picture was shared by the other teams ...
Bottas was involved in a very strange situation ! HAM's respons time was 0.00 sec !
Bottas said I didn't watched the start lights ...
Give me a break !!!
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I think it's a bit disingenuous to say that Max is the only driver to be able to split the Mercedes. While its true that has been the case this year, the same cant be said of years prior. I think most of us here would agree that if you put half the field in a Red Bull or Ferrari (well, not this years Ferrari), they'd be able to split the Mercedes duo with the a similar frequency that Max does.

Don't take this to mean that half the field is just as good as Max though. He does seem to have a special, raw talent. Just pointing out that there is good talent further down the field that could achieve that. There's a reason why they are in F1 after all
Mmmm...That's really strange . As the Merc fanboys are always saying It's not the Merc , It's the GOAT !
It's the driver , so in this situation It's HAM and not the fastest car of the decade ...
So....from your statement , others can do it as well from the moment they are driving a Merc .

Or put Grosjean in the RB16 and he would split the Mercs ?
While Albon drives a RB16 as well... Don't see him ?
I didn't say the whole field, I said half Grosjean used to be rated very well. Remember his time with Lotus and being partnered with Kimi? He held his own very well. Not sure why he fell of pace so much...

Regarding the Mercedes, it's the car/driver combo. Other drivers would have been able to win in the Mercedes, but most likely without the same frequency or consistency. His skill did play a large part in his seven titles, but the car did play a role in helping him achieve his records. To say it's only the car is to be a bit ignorant of the skill it takes to drive these cars.
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I didn't say the whole field, I said half Grosjean used to be rated very well. Remember his time with Lotus and being partnered with Kimi? He held his own very well. Not sure why he fell of pace so much...

Regarding the Mercedes, it's the car/driver combo. Other drivers would have been able to win in the Mercedes, but most likely without the same frequency or consistency. His skill did play a large part in his seven titles, but the car did play a role in helping him achieve his records. To say it's only the car is to be a bit ignorant of the skill it takes to drive these cars.
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1- Mercs Party Mode software-related (100 + HP)
2- DAS
3- Tire cooling system in wheels
4- Automatic launch control (start lights controller)

No wait ! These are just F1 Merc inventions .

Merc runs with it , while the other teams didn't had it ...

My friend ,Jean Todt is a F* clown ! And financial speculation is all over the place !

Good job by Mercedes !
1. My friend, not worth a hundred HP...maybe 40 at the best estimate. And it's not just the power. It's the deployment of the power. This is where Mercedes is superior...drivability. Additionally, Mercedes has been trolling all of F1 since 2014. Once they solved the chassis problems of 2012 during the 2013 season, they had the best chassis in the field but kept it secret until recently...even talking up the RBR and McLaren chassis while laughing.

2. DAS fully legal and developed with the FIAs knowledge. Written out of the rules to avoid a DAS spending war.

3. Tire Cooling System is advanced spokes. Not illegal and even copied by a few teams.

4. Invented by Big Foot. That's how much credibility this has.

Mercedes has taken it to another level that RBR can't match even though they have 440+ million dollars to spend. They need smarter people and a driver that can help develop a good car. They have work to do.
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Unless it was Ricciardo in the other RB.
First two years

I'm not a math expert but this is what I call a butt whipping. VER got smoked!!
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