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      12-01-2020, 11:12 PM   #23
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Is there any poverty spec experiences offered?
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Pretty neat.

With that being said I'd still rather do the Porsche experience in LA. But then again if you have endless money to burn then you can do both.
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Pretty neat.

With that being said I'd still rather do the Porsche experience in LA. But then again if you have endless money to burn then you can do both.
PEC is an entirely different ball game. PEC isn't a race track. It's a tight, short exhibition lap that is a good enough marketing tool to sell more street cars from Stuttgart. Many corporate folks buy packages to wine and dine customers who don't have a clue what makes a GT3 different from a Carrera.

Let's not conflate the two. PEC for me was overhyped. This GT4 experience is a small slice of motorsport pie.
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PEC is an entirely different ball game. PEC isn't a race track. It's a tight, short exhibition lap that is a good enough marketing tool to sell more street cars from Stuttgart. Many corporate folks buy packages to wine and dine customers who don't have a clue what makes a GT3 different from a Carrera.

Let's not conflate the two. PEC for me was overhyped. This GT4 experience is a small slice of motorsport pie.
I haven't done PEC so this is news to me. So it's mostly just marketing fluff then? I've held off cause it's $400-500 bucks. But I don't know how else I can push around a 911 otherwise unless it's taking a rental from Turo through LA's canyons.
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PEC is an entirely different ball game. PEC isn't a race track. It's a tight, short exhibition lap that is a good enough marketing tool to sell more street cars from Stuttgart. Many corporate folks buy packages to wine and dine customers who don't have a clue what makes a GT3 different from a Carrera.

Let's not conflate the two. PEC for me was overhyped. This GT4 experience is a small slice of motorsport pie.
I haven't done PEC so this is news to me. So it's mostly just marketing fluff then? I've held off cause it's $400-500 bucks. But I don't know how else I can push around a 911 otherwise unless it's taking a rental from Turo through LA's canyons.
It's cool if you're going there wanting to get a feel for a new 911 without risking serious jail time by doing some laps around their exhibition loop. Half of the real estate is set up for handling and braking exercises. Car control.

I personally would never spend my money for any PEC experience. I only did it because I was the one wining and dining. Learned the 992 is pretty quick (had access to them before any were sold), but predictably it fell well short of a GT3 experience. The 991.2 GT3 is legit.

I'm pretty certain the M4 GT4 program at $10K will be some levels above sht. It'd better be.
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seems like it is too much money. skip classes are cheaper and you are in a formal car
I did Skip Barber Formula school when I was a teenager, those cars are SLOW. The instructors you follow drive normal Mazda 3 sedans to give you an idea of how little power we're talking about. It's not like you're in a Formula 1 car or anything exciting.

Compared to that, I'm drooling over the idea of the M4 GT4 experience. I'd love to do it someday.
they use F4 cars. I have a good friend that is an instructor with the. things change
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Are these still available to purchase at this time?

Also have to bet a few go straight to a heated garage collection and never see the track.
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