[Rob_G77]

I asked for a lease quote on a 2023 Z4 M40i from a dealership a few hours away.

As part of the seemingly high $95k Cdn price tag, there was a nearly $5k 'option' package consisting of the following:

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BMW Carpet & All Weather Floor Mats
Lender Fee
Freight and PDI
Administration Charge
Air Conditioner Excise Tax
Invisitrak
Nitrogen | N2
Sask Tire Recycling Fee
Fuel to Fill
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I asked why they were charging again for freight/pdi and the salesguy said the costs outlined on the bmw website don't cover what the real costs are and they need to add another $1000 for shipping.

So I sent the salesguy another email asking why he was double charging for admin fee, AC tax, tire fee which were also priced out as separate charges (again) on the lease breakdown. I said floor mats don't cost $4000 and I don't recall any dealership EVER explicitly charging for fuel in the tank. And Nitrogen in the tires? Really? Don't know what Invisitrak is, don't care. If the car gets stolen, that is what insurance is for.

Of course he said I could make an offer if I was serious, but at this time I'm just seeing what prices are.

Rob

[RigaTony1982]

This crap happens in the US too. I’d just keep searching for another dealer.

[Westside Guy]

So you started with a Z4, switched to an M850i convertible and you are now leaving the dark side and returning to us?

[Rob_G77]

Originally Posted by Westside Guy

So you started with a Z4, switched to an M850i convertible and you are now leaving the dark side and returning to us?

I have no idea at this point. I should still have my X6 and Z4, but that's another story.

Rob

[Westside Guy]

Originally Posted by Rob_G77

I have no idea at this point. I should still have my X6 and Z4, but that's another story.

Rob

Especially after all of your issues with the M850i!

What was the final outcome?

[Argo]

All of those are 100% fluff fees. The actual value of all of those is approximately $0 since they're either extremely minor things or things you're (as you said) already paying for.

[dholaday]

The dealer is trying to screw you. Run away as fast as you can.

[GerryC]

When I was searching for my Z4, one dealer didn't even try to hide it with 'options'. Their window sticker include a $10k Additional Dealer Markup, but he offered that they could cut that to $5k.

I walked out and went to a different dealer.

[///M TOWN]

Don’t walk, but run… 💨

I’d file a complaint w/ BMW

Block them from emailing you ❕

[BEAR-AvHistory]

Originally Posted by Rob_G77

What does $5K in dealer 'options' get you?

NOTHING

[Pprior]

Buy elsewhere. Local dealer had same crap - I bought 2 hours away with none of it.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by Pprior

Buy elsewhere. Local dealer had same crap - I bought 2 hours away with none of it.

That’s why they call them Stealerships

I hope u drive 2 hours for service as well

[RigaTony1982]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

That’s why they call them Stealerships

I hope drive 2 hours for service as well

Yeah, I found a dealer I like for service as well that's about a 45 minute drive for me. There's quite a few dealers closer to me, but when you find a good one IMO it's worth patronizing them.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by RigaTony1982

Yeah, I found a dealer I like for service as well that's about a 45 minute drive for me. There's quite a few dealers closer to me, but when you find a good one IMO it's worth patronizing them.

I just do Saturday service and go super early and I am in a out in what seems like no time at all

[stlcdr]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

I just do Saturday service and go super early and I am in a out in what seems like no time at all

I’m about to get my first service at 4k miles: when you say ‘in and out’, is that something like less than an hour?

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by stlcdr

I’m about to get my first service at 4k miles: when you say ‘in and out’, is that something like less than an hour?

Maybe two hours, just let them know you’re waiting…

I walk over to a nearby Starbucks and kill some time, then walk back and I kill the rest surfing w/my iPad in the lounge

[Matthewstorm]

My best car buying experience was at a BMW dealer. The salesman said there were a bunch of 'ad ons' I could get if I wanted but he suggested against it. My sale price was below MSRP. Everyone there was really great. Gave me super high trade in for my Supra.

[Balr14]

A big part of the reason I like BMWs is due to the dealerships. There are two very good ones, neither is conveniently located. But, they are very professional and honest, prices are fair, service is excellent and they provide very nice loaners. Their showrooms are great with a fine selection of models to drool over. I believe both have been in business more than 60 years.

[Rob_G77]

In all my car buying (mis)adventures, I have never seen a dealership charge for the first fillup.

I used to think my local dealership were a bunch of good guys, until they did some really questionable shit and completely washed their hands of it (because they can).

Rob

[RigaTony1982]

Gas around here is $5.29 a gallon for premium, which I’m guessing is on the expensive side. Z4 would have to have a 28 gallon fuel tank for it to be about $150. LOL at these guys…

[Argo]

Every single new car I've ever bought or leased (3x Audi, 1x VW) has come with a full tank of gas.

This is also true for every other make as far as I know. Charging you for the initial fill-up is straight-up scummy.

[BEAR-AvHistory]

My new Jeep, 12% off MSRP, came with a complementary full tank. Same operation also owns the BMW store so the “comped" gas is not limited just to premium cars.