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      05-22-2019, 09:48 PM   #5809
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And then Trump claims to hold an "impromptu"press conference with notes and props already made up. Talk about staged. LOL.
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I did, and it sounds like another conspiracy theory to me. So, there are 103 or so "left leaning" attorneys in the department of justice? This simply reflects the American populace, the majority who are left leaning socially and conservative financially.

In addition, weren't there about 700 lawyers from leading firms that recently declared that our president would be prosecuted for obstruction after they read the report? The constitution isn't a left or right leaning document.
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This is confusing. The FBI launches multiple investigations against Avenatti. I thought the deep state didn't turn on their own??????

https://apnews.com/a6e717dc8d224706a766b759ffded030
NEW YORK (AP) — Michael Avenatti, the attorney who rocketed to fame through his representation of porn star Stormy Daniels in her battles with President Donald Trump, was charged Wednesday with ripping her off.

Federal prosecutors in New York City say Avenatti used a doctored document to divert about $300,000 that Daniels was supposed to get from a book deal, then used the money for personal and business expenses. Only half of that money was paid back, prosecutors said.
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I did, and it sounds like another conspiracy theory to me. So, there are 103 or so "left leaning" attorneys in the department of justice? This simply reflects the American populace, the majority who are left leaning socially and conservative financially.

In addition, weren't there about 700 lawyers from leading firms that recently declared that our president would be prosecuted for obstruction after they read the report? The constitution isn't a left or right leaning document.
It's the fact that there were criteria of elimination that disqualified any without social justice/civil rights experience is a HUGE problem.

And who cares what 700 unnamed attorneys out of 1.3+ million attorneys say? Those ass-clowns typically say whatever the largest check book tells them to say.

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This is confusing. The FBI launches multiple investigations against Avenatti. I thought the deep state didn't turn on their own??????

https://apnews.com/a6e717dc8d224706a766b759ffded030
NEW YORK (AP) ó Michael Avenatti, the attorney who rocketed to fame through his representation of porn star Stormy Daniels in her battles with President Donald Trump, was charged Wednesday with ripping her off.

Federal prosecutors in New York City say Avenatti used a doctored document to divert about $300,000 that Daniels was supposed to get from a book deal, then used the money for personal and business expenses. Only half of that money was paid back, prosecutors said.
Created a PAC to run in 2020, decided against it, then paid himself from the $ raised. 2024, baby!!!!
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I did, and it sounds like another conspiracy theory to me. So, there are 103 or so "left leaning" attorneys in the department of justice? This simply reflects the American populace, the majority who are left leaning socially and conservative financially.

In addition, weren't there about 700 lawyers from leading firms that recently declared that our president would be prosecuted for obstruction after they read the report? The constitution isn't a left or right leaning document.
And with all those trump disliking left leaning attorneys working their asses off for years to find any illegal, chargeable link to the ruskies actually came up with not a damn thing. If mueller thought it was crime he would have recommended charges, itís that simple. In his devious way he passed the buck to turn it from a criminal grenade to a political one. The dems were happy to play along to prevent another 4 years of trump. Iím confident this choice will come back and bite them on the ass. Mueller wonít even come before congress to explain his choices because he would put himself in jeopardy for multiple actions. That speaks volumes.

700 lawyers stating that its obstruction doesnít make it so. There are many attorneys who say itís not, itís called politics and usually runs along party lines. It shouldnít but thatís the way it is. SCOTUS might decide, if it gets that far but I think not, if this alleged obstruction is a crime.

dems have been calling for impeachment since he first took office without even an inkling of any wrongdoing. The highest court has been watching as we all have this kill at any cost, evidence or no evidence coup attempt.
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And with all those trump disliking left leaning attorneys working their asses off for years to find any illegal, chargeable link to the ruskies actually came up with not a damn thing. If mueller thought it was crime he would have recommended charges, itís that simple. In his devious way he passed the buck to turn it from a criminal grenade to a political one. The dems were happy to play along to prevent another 4 years of trump. Iím confident this choice will come back and bite them on the ass. Mueller wonít even come before congress to explain his choices because he would put himself in jeopardy for multiple actions. That speaks volumes.
Based on what evidence?
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A miss! A big whiff, in many different ways.

https://apple.news/A0lZNyWe8SXmroVpr6eKHoQ
"Rex Tillerson, a man who is 'dumb as a rock' and totally ill prepared and ill equipped to be Secretary of State, made up a story (he got fired) that I was out-prepared by Vladimir Putin at a meeting in Hamburg, Germany," the president tweeted. "I don't think Putin would agree. Look how the U.S. is doing!"
The president's outburst on social media comes after a report from The Washington Post that Tillerson met for seven hours Tuesday with members of the House Foreign Affairs Committee and told the lawmakers that Trump was less prepped than Russian President Vladimir Putin for a 2017 session in Hamburg, Germany


Contrasting this, Rex Tillerson picked cotton and was a janitor in college, a truly self-made man. And if Trump thinks he's that dumb, why did he pick him as Secretary of State?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_Tillerson?wprov=sfti1
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I did, and it sounds like another conspiracy theory to me. So, there are 103 or so "left leaning" attorneys in the department of justice? This simply reflects the American populace, the majority who are left leaning socially and conservative financially.

In addition, weren't there about 700 lawyers from leading firms that recently declared that our president would be prosecuted for obstruction after they read the report? The constitution isn't a left or right leaning document.
I believe the list currently stands at 947, both Democrat and Republican lawyers.
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There are more then 1.1 million lawyers in the U.S. and a minuscule 900 partisan ones whining about something doesn’t make it fact. It’s the proverbial drop in the ocean and to be expected. Political hack liars for hire are a dime a dozen, it’s just irrelevant noise.
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I believe the list currently stands at 947, both Democrat and Republican lawyers.
Yabut it doesn't matter because MKSixer has declared them all left-leaning money grubber and so who cares what they think.
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This is confusing. The FBI launches multiple investigations against Avenatti. I thought the deep state didn't turn on their own??????

https://apnews.com/a6e717dc8d224706a766b759ffded030
NEW YORK (AP) ó Michael Avenatti, the attorney who rocketed to fame through his representation of porn star Stormy Daniels in her battles with President Donald Trump, was charged Wednesday with ripping her off.

Federal prosecutors in New York City say Avenatti used a doctored document to divert about $300,000 that Daniels was supposed to get from a book deal, then used the money for personal and business expenses. Only half of that money was paid back, prosecutors said.
When was it ever suggested that Avenatti was a part of the Deep State??? Greasy porn lawyer was the only title I have ever seen associated with him. Unless he was formerlly a Deputy Director of the CIA and I just missed it?
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There are more then 1.1 million lawyers in the U.S. and a minuscule 900 partisan ones whining about something doesn’t make it fact. It’s the proverbial drop in the ocean and to be expected. Political hack liars for hire are a dime a dozen, it’s just irrelevant noise.
The list was to be ex-federal prosecutors, not just any old lawyer, and I know it started out that way for at least the first 450 of them, and I believe has continued that way to the present day.

You are free to go look at the document that is posted and then their credentials as to who they are and where they worked. I am not sure the 947 of them are partisan, or hacks, or liars, or political hack liars, or whatever else you would like to call them in an attempt to discredit them.
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The list was to be ex-federal prosecutors, not just any old lawyer, and I know it started out that way for at least the first 450 of them, and I believe has continued that way to the present day.

You are free to go look at the document that is posted and then their credentials as to who they are and where they worked. I am not sure the 947 of them are partisan, or hacks, or liars, or political hack liars, or whatever else you would like to call them in an attempt to discredit them.
I’m not sure all of them are either but MK already posted the big fish On the mueller hit team and they’re all partisan and sycophants of Hillary and or Comey. I don’t need to run down the list of the rest who joined the Clinton and msnbc clique. If they’re coming out to add their names to the list it’s clear what the motive is. No crime no collusion. The left will lose if if even makes it to SCOTUS, which I’m confident it won’t. The more they attack the more trumps numbers go up. Shit, the dems in the house of reps don’t even have enough of their own members to pass on impeachment. It’s only the pathetic hardcore socialists, communists, racists of the way the fuck out there left pressing it. Now they got pelosli onboard, the party is coming apart at the seams.

The decision was made by Mueller, no collusion and he passed his responsibility on obstruction to Barr who made the call. The dem game is over, they’re just acting like chickens with their heads lopped off and just don’t know it yet. Comical to watch and will hurt them big time in the election.
Trumps approval rating is higher then Obama’s at the same time in his first term.
The left knows he’s going to get re-elected unless they can get him out and theyre playing a never ending game of Russian roulette that they will no doubt shoot themselves right in temple. It’s too damn transparent and akin to watching Smullet X 1000. America sees through the fraud.
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My sister-in-law is a Pol worker in NorthernPa. There was a special U.S. House race. Trump showed up to support the Republican. They never saw such a gathering.

The Republican won with 78% they had a 48% turnout. 90 Percent of the people just showed up for this. My sis-in-Law said she couldn't tell my wife (who is an election judge) how many democrats said were embarrassed to be Democrats. Many people requested change of party affiliation forms.



I am not usually optomistic but this election will be a clean sweep for Repubs. CNN may need to change their talking points.
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Iím not sure all of them are either but MK already posted the big fish On the mueller hit team and theyíre all partisan and sycophants of Hillary and or Comey. I donít need to run down the list of the rest who joined the Clinton and msnbc clique. If theyíre coming out to add their names to the list itís clear what the motive is. No crime no collusion. The left will lose if if even makes it to SCOTUS, which Iím confident it wonít. The more they attack the more trumps numbers go up. Shit, the dems in the house of reps donít even have enough of their own members to pass on impeachment. Itís only the pathetic hardcore socialists, communists, racists of the way the fuck out there left pressing it. Now they got pelosli onboard, the party is coming apart at the seams.

The decision was made by Mueller, no collusion and he passed his responsibility on obstruction to Barr who made the call. The dem game is over, theyíre just acting like chickens with their heads lopped off and just donít know it yet. Comical to watch and will hurt them big time in the election.
Trumps approval rating is higher then Obamaís at the same time in his first term.
The left knows heís going to get re-elected unless they can get him out and theyre playing a never ending game of Russian roulette that they will no doubt shoot themselves right in temple. Itís too damn transparent and akin to watching Smullet X 1000. America sees through the fraud.
I am not sure we are talking about the same thing. This has nothing to do with anything MK posted. Here is the open letter posted and the 947 former prosecutors have signed on to. It is what it is:

We are former federal prosecutors. We served under both Republican and Democratic administrations at different levels of the federal system: as line attorneys, supervisors, special prosecutors, United States Attorneys, and senior officials at the Department of Justice. The offices in which we served were small, medium, and large; urban, suburban, and rural; and located in all parts of our country.

Each of us believes that the conduct of President Trump described in Special Counsel Robert Muellerís report would, in the case of any other person not covered by the Office of Legal Counsel policy against indicting a sitting President, result in multiple felony charges for obstruction of justice.

The Mueller report describes several acts that satisfy all of the elements for an obstruction charge: conduct that obstructed or attempted to obstruct the truth-finding process, as to which the evidence of corrupt intent and connection to pending proceedings is overwhelming. These include:

∑ The Presidentís efforts to fire Mueller and to falsify evidence about that effort;

∑ The Presidentís efforts to limit the scope of Muellerís investigation to exclude his conduct; and

∑ The Presidentís efforts to prevent witnesses from cooperating with investigators probing him and his campaign.

Attempts to fire Mueller and then create false evidence

Despite being advised by then-White House Counsel Don McGahn that he could face legal jeopardy for doing so, Trump directed McGahn on multiple occasions to fire Mueller or to gin up false conflicts of interest as a pretext for getting rid of the Special Counsel. When these acts began to come into public view, Trump made ďrepeated efforts to have McGahn deny the storyĒ ó going so far as to tell McGahn to write a letter ďfor our filesĒ falsely denying that Trump had directed Muellerís termination.

Firing Mueller would have seriously impeded the investigation of the President and his associates ó obstruction in its most literal sense. Directing the creation of false government records in order to prevent or discredit truthful testimony is similarly unlawful. The Special Counselís report states: ďSubstantial evidence indicates that in repeatedly urging McGahn to dispute that he was ordered to have the Special Counsel terminated, the President acted for the purpose of influencing McGahnís account in order to deflect or prevent scrutiny of the Presidentís conduct toward the investigation.Ē

Attempts to limit the Mueller investigation

The report describes multiple efforts by the president to curtail the scope of the Special Counselís investigation.

First, the President repeatedly pressured then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions to reverse his legally-mandated decision to recuse himself from the investigation. The Presidentís stated reason was that he wanted an attorney general who would ďprotectĒ him, including from the Special Counsel investigation. He also directed then-White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus to fire Sessions and Priebus refused.

Second, after McGahn told the President that he could not contact Sessions himself to discuss the investigation, Trump went outside the White House, instructing his former campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, to carry a demand to Sessions to direct Mueller to confine his investigation to future elections. Lewandowski tried and failed to contact Sessions in private. After a second meeting with Trump, Lewandowski passed Trumpís message to senior White House official Rick Dearborn, who Lewandowski thought would be a better messenger because of his prior relationship with Sessions. Dearborn did not pass along Trumpís message.

As the report explains, ď[s]ubstantial evidence indicates that the Presidentís effort to have Sessions limit the scope of the Special Counselís investigation to future election interference was intended to prevent further investigative scrutiny of the Presidentís and his campaignís conductĒ ó in other words, the President employed a private citizen to try to get the Attorney General to limit the scope of an ongoing investigation into the President and his associates.

All of this conduct ó trying to control and impede the investigation against the President by leveraging his authority over others ó is similar to conduct we have seen charged against other public officials and people in powerful positions.

Witness tampering and intimidation

The Special Counselís report establishes that the President tried to influence the decisions of both Michael Cohen and Paul Manafort with regard to cooperating with investigators. Some of this tampering and intimidation, including the dangling of pardons, was done in plain sight via tweets and public statements; other such behavior was done via private messages through private attorneys, such as Trump counsel Rudy Giulianiís message to Cohenís lawyer that Cohen should ď[s]leep well tonight[], you have friends in high places.Ē

Of course, these arenít the only acts of potential obstruction detailed by the Special Counsel. It would be well within the purview of normal prosecutorial judgment also to charge other acts detailed in the report.

We emphasize that these are not matters of close professional judgment. Of course, there are potential defenses or arguments that could be raised in response to an indictment of the nature we describe here. In our system, every accused person is presumed innocent and it is always the governmentís burden to prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt. But, to look at these facts and say that a prosecutor could not probably sustain a conviction for obstruction of justice ó the standard set out in Principles of Federal Prosecution ó runs counter to logic and our experience.

As former federal prosecutors, we recognize that prosecuting obstruction of justice cases is critical because unchecked obstruction ó which allows intentional interference with criminal investigations to go unpunished ó puts our whole system of justice at risk. We believe strongly that, but for the OLC memo, the overwhelming weight of professional judgment would come down in favor of prosecution for the conduct outlined in the Mueller Report.

If you are a former federal prosecutor and would like to add your name below,
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https://apnews.com/9e926bfccb5947d5a5f8eb260cb0a7e6

Massive hit

"Press secretary Sarah Sanders said in a statement that Trump is delegating to Barr the “full and complete authority” to declassify documents relating to the probe"

Time to watch the rats scatter, gentlemen. Happy Friday.
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Scotty- I started with MK’s post to demonstrate my opinion that’s it’s just more of the same and segued into the lawyers who later chimed in with their opinions and the bad transition is on me.
That’s what they are only opinions and I don’t need to run down that list because their thoughts are irrelevant. I’m confident that they’re all left leaning at the least and trying desperately to remove the CIC. Saying they worked for both republican and dem admins means squat, govt is always full of mix of the parties.

We don’t know what party card they have in their wallets, who they donate to and what their motivation is. My thought about MK post is that the vast majority of these new late jumper inners are as neutral as the mueller picks who have been proven to be donators to the D party, strong party affiliations up to being caught at Hillary’s ‘victory’ party and at least one being an attorney for Hillary herself. That fair? Hardly.
Still a minuscule amount of lawyers and just more desperate leftist noise that means and accomplishes nothing.
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Yabut it doesn't matter because MKSixer has declared them all left-leaning money grubber and so who cares what they think.
Reading is fundamental. These were new employees. And people wonder why the shellacking continues. smh!
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Scotty- I started with MKís post to demonstrate my opinion thatís itís just more of the same and segued into the lawyers who later chimed in with their opinions and the bad transition is on me.
Thatís what they are only opinions and I donít need to run down that list because their thoughts are irrelevant. Iím confident that theyíre all left leaning at the least and trying desperately to remove the CIC. Saying they worked for both republican and dem admins means squat, govt is always full of mix of the parties.

We donít know what party card they have in their wallets, who they donate to and what their motivation is. My thought about MK post is that the vast majority of these new late jumper inners are as neutral as the mueller picks who have been proven to be donators to the D party, strong party affiliations up to being caught at Hillaryís Ďvictoryí party and at least one being an attorney for Hillary herself. That fair? Hardly.
Still a minuscule amount of lawyers and just more desperate leftist noise that means and accomplishes nothing.
I'm literally about to give up. Note the percentages from the "politically agnostic" DoJ.

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