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It's not crazy to assume the Acura would be a better vehicle in several metrics. A lot depends on price. I'm thinking a Type S will (should?) be priced like a 330i, but I'm concerned a Type S will be priced more like a base M340i and will try and win by being larger and better equipped (than a base M340).
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06-04-2020, 10:19 AM | #49 |
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When a manufacturer has the balls to make a sports sedan with a proper manual transmission, then I'll start to get interested. Until then, any new car for me will be used and have 3 pedals.
Also, regarding the discussion of FWD vs. RWD. The reveal clearly states this is an Acura-only chassis. Honda could easily made it RWD based and added FWD for the AWD variant. I think Acura/Honda could sell the crap out of a light RWD architecture chassis sedan and coupe. |
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-Both have 6-Speed Manuals -Both RWD -CT4 receives Turbo V6 -CT5 receives Supercharged V8 (LT2) -Alpha Platform shared w/ Camaro -Magneride Suspension -Cadillac Steering Feel -New and Improved Interior/Infotainment -Cheaper than Germans
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i don't think you can really compare honda against the germans and americans in terms of performance. you buy one because you know you can own it worry free for 100k miles or more. the interior isn't going to fall apart, rattle, or wear down. Whens the last time you heard of honda having issues with their crankhubs or charge pipes cracking?
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Honda reliability isn't what it use to be, however, it is still likely better than the Germans.
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I guess more Type-S models down the pipeline to come, potentially.
Product plan for future Acura’s. |
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Its just marketing. I can't imagine many TLX buyers actually care how the car drives.
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Honda/Acura historically saves money with poor quality interior materials and thin, soft paint.
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Until they mount the engine longitudinally count me out.
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A manual transmission can be set to "comfort", "sport", and "track" modes simply by the technique and speed at which you shift it; it doesn't need "modes", modes are for manumatics that try to behave like a real 3-pedal manual transmission. If you can money-shift it, it's a manual transmission. "Yeah, but NO ONE puts an automatic trans shift knob on a manual transmission."
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Worst was the Acura Vigor WAS a longitudinal mounted engine and they still made it FWD
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Some people just enjoy driving a manual transmission without 8,000 horsepower and a 2 second 0 - 60 time. BMW used to build millions of them.
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Only really Genesis is left then if you require luxury, otherwise, the hot hatch category has some pretty good choices, but yes, if four doors are a requirement, its a pretty limited search sadly.
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Most of the issue has to do with US DOT crash testing regulations. With the pro-business Executive Administration currently in power, now is the time to lobby the US government to change the regulations to allow for computer-modelling of crash tests so a chassis can have several different drivetrain combinations without expensive crash testing of each version. Hot-hatches were "hot" when I was 18 and that was a loooonnnnggg time ago
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And the Vigor har a 5-cylinder I believe!
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