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Autocar: BMW design boss defends radical styling direction
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10-10-2019, 12:12 PM | #2 |
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He is tone deaf. The complaints of many of us are not that they have changed, it is that they have changed from an attractive grill to a hideous unattractive one. Change is fine...just make it attractive.
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+1 - Time for van Hooydonk to move on.
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10-10-2019, 12:54 PM | #4 |
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The car is nice looking except for the out of proportion grill.
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10-10-2019, 01:08 PM | #5 |
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Meh... ugly car can sell well. Just look at Teslas. We have a giant Asprin, Platypus, Aztek with gullwings. They are doing just fine.
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10-10-2019, 01:17 PM | #6 |
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That may be the worst grill I've ever seen on a car. Worse than any Toyota/Lexus........
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10-10-2019, 01:28 PM | #7 |
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Of course he will defend his own work.
The last few and current designs have either been ugly or getting uglier in my opinion. Time for him to move on...
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Who actually LIKES these huge grills? I've heard that it's primarily to the Chinese market who love the things.
Audi / Lexus have been doing this for a while and I always thought it looked hideous. I do hope that it doesn't spread to the entire line of cars. |
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I’m afraid of what the LCI G20 might look like.
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Between the years of 2000 and 2007 Chrysler sold roughly 100K PT Cruisers every year. I'm not ready to brand the ugly 4-series concept a failure. |
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10-10-2019, 04:17 PM | #11 |
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We had the Bengel-butt that terrorized some BMW booties and now the Hooydonk-Snout.
Tone deaf is right. If you acknowledge the BMW loyalists, you should attempt to listen to them as you advance the brand forward. ![]() |
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10-10-2019, 04:22 PM | #12 |
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Can the grill provide 2.5 mph impact resistance to damage? Since there is no bumper. They decided to put a bumper only where the small offset crash test would take place. I haven't seen the full head on crash test recently do they still do those?
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10-10-2019, 04:24 PM | #13 |
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Adrian van Hooydonk is probably used to controversy. Remember the E65 7-Series with the flame surfacing and "Bangle Butt"? van Hooydonk was the lead designer for that vehicle.
People really hated that design when it first came out, but I think it has aged decently well. I suspect we will see something similar with the new grills. |
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Hopefully the grill is just for a concept. Ugly if it is that large. Nothing else to say. The rear section from rear third back is amazing. Sexy in fact.
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10-10-2019, 04:31 PM | #15 |
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For the 4 series anyway...
In addition to being an ugly trapezoidal version of the classic kidney grille...my problem with this is that huge grilles have been done by other makes for years now. Instead of leading, they are behind. Why bother then? |
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10-10-2019, 04:37 PM | #16 |
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Big grille or not, it was time for a big design change for BMW IMO. The outgoing design language of the F3x, G11/12, and G30 look very dated to me already. If you told me the G30 came out in 2010 when the F10 debuted, I would believe you. Same goes for the G11. When those cars debuted, it was so disappointing and I just thought "that's it?" A new 5er and 7er shouldn't elicit that kind of response. It seems like BMW is thinking the same way since this design language has only lasted one generation before a big shakeup.
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10-10-2019, 04:40 PM | #17 |
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I'm just sitting here laughing at all the people who were swearing this will never happen. Then all the photos were fake and incorrect.
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10-10-2019, 04:43 PM | #18 |
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Sedan clan has a huge hard on for it.
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10-10-2019, 04:44 PM | #19 |
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I'm all for taking chances with design but you look like a cheese dik in this thing trying to overcompensate for something with that grill. That's just plain embarrassing. It's a shame too because I think the rest of the concept is outstanding.
Couldn't agree more with this guy
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10-10-2019, 04:47 PM | #20 |
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I agree so much. It's not a problem to be radical but why does it have to look ugly and cheap. The looks are very cheap and kind of trashy looking like a Korean car. That is my main problem
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Pandering to the Chinese market because that's where the money is
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Jesus those grills are ugly.
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