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View Poll Results: Will Trump resign, or get impeached, or "other"?
Under 6 months 15 11.81%
under 1 year 22 17.32%
2 years 11 8.66%
3 years 1 0.79%
Serves 1 term, leaves, no Pence presidency 30 23.62%
Trump serves 2 terms 41 32.28%
FDR option, amendment lets him serve more than 1 term 0 0%
Far out there option.....He resigns and becomes the next pope and calls himself "Budweiser the 1st" 7 5.51%
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      01-31-2017, 09:14 AM   #67
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Wouldn't that be nice if we could actually figure out a way to minimize terrorist immigrants..
I agree. You know how many terrorist attacks have been committed by immigrants from those countries in the US since 1975?

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From 1975 to the end of 2015, 20 refugees have been convicted of attempting or committing terrorism on U.S. soil, and only three Americans have been killed in attacks committed by refugees—all in the 1970s. Zero Americans have been killed by Syrian refugees in a terrorist attack on U.S. soil. The annual chance of an American dying in a terrorist attack committed by a refugee is one in 3.6 billion. The other 17 convictions have mainly been for aiding or attempting to join foreign terrorists.
What lefty media outlet would dare report such fake news?

The Cato Institute, https://www.cato.org/blog/little-nat...er-immigration

But you're right, good for him for minimizing something that's already non-existent, I feel safer already.

Next hopefully he can sign a measure to reduce the number of instances we have solar flares in the US. That would truly be wonderful.
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get the fck out of Syria for heaven sake
I hear also pentagon spending will be going up.. FCK that
How much money disappeared in the Pentagon again? trillions?
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I hear also pentagon spending will be going up.. FCK that
How much money disappeared in the Pentagon again? trillions?
Don't hold your breath but hopefully he holds them accountable for mismanaging allocated funds.
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Yep not enough convictions and way to many Americans killed. I guess you think they got them all. I don't. I guess you think we are safer with open borders and allowing people to break our laws if they feel like it. I don't. I guess you just don't believe in our countries sovereignty. I do.
By the way yes my family immigrated , did it legally and have prospered. They came through Ellis Island in 1920. If you think the world is the same as in 1920 you should wake up and smell the coffee it's $4 a cup.
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Yep not enough convictions and way to many Americans killed. I guess you think they got them all. I don't. I guess you think we are safer with open borders and allowing people to break our laws if they feel like it. I don't. I guess you just don't believe in our countries sovereignty. I do.
By the way yes my family immigrated , did it legally and have prospered. They came through Ellis Island in 1920. If you think the world is the same as in 1920 you should wake up and smell the coffee it's $4 a cup.
I must have missed the part where it said only people who were trying to immigrate illegally from those countries were banned.

No I don't think the world is the same as 1920. Coffee is only $4 a cup if you're dumb enough to go to Starbucks.
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Yep not enough convictions and way to many Americans killed. I guess you think they got them all. I don't. I guess you think we are safer with open borders and allowing people to break our laws if they feel like it. I don't. I guess you just don't believe in our countries sovereignty. I do.
By the way yes my family immigrated , did it legally and have prospered. They came through Ellis Island in 1920. If you think the world is the same as in 1920 you should wake up and smell the coffee it's $4 a cup.
....being a refugee granted asylum is also legal so I don't know what your point is.

And yes, I'd say a 1 in 3.6 billion chance of being killed by a refugee in a terrorist attack on US soil is plenty good enough. You've got a better chance being in a plane crash (1 in 11 million). You afraid to fly too? Since you're SIGNIFICANTLY more likely to die in one of those.

It seems like you're more worried about illegal immigration than refugees which is fine and understandable. My point is that the EO will do nothing to make us safer, if you're gripe is about illegal immigration then that's a different conversation entirely. That said, I don't think spending $25bn+ on a wall won't do much to help especially since we have to pay for it.

Not sure what to do in those instances since it's also too costly to have mass deportation campaigns and when you do deport illegal immigrants, they just come back anyway.

I'm also not sure why you think I think the world is the same as it is in 1920's.

But please, if I'm misinformed, please tell me how the EO will prevent illegal immigration since that's the actual topic we're all talking about here.
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The underlying thrust of all of these threads are clearly pointed at President Trump's initiatives which got him elected to be our president, thus my diversion into alternate areas of this subject of dispute are actually relative and substantive.
I don't buy coffee I sell it at $4 a cup one half block away from a Starbucks.
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More important than stopping immigration from these countries is to stop supplying them with funding and weapons on both sides of every God damn conflict. But who am I to judge (just a middle class Independent with no representation or say in our government whatsoever)?
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More important than stopping immigration from these countries is to stop supplying them with funding and weapons on both sides of every God damn conflict. But who am I to judge (just a middle class Independent with no representation or say in our government whatsoever)?
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I don't buy coffee I sell it at $4 a cup one half block away from a Starbucks.
Does it taste burnt like Starbucks coffee or no?
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Does it taste burnt like Starbucks coffee or no?
Thats just the smell of the person who just got burned for paying $4 for a cup of coffee.
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Yes, Starbucks coffee sucks thats why we can profit within a half block. See there is always common ground pun intended
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dude! Creeped me TF out.
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But you're right, good for him for minimizing something that's already non-existent, I feel safer already.

Next hopefully he can sign a measure to reduce the number of instances we have solar flares in the US. That would truly be wonderful.
Trump is a lot smarter than he looks. He's setting up strawman enemies so when he knocks them down, it looks like he's doing great.

It's all part of his strategy to confuse the public and ultimately de-legitimize true facts. In the end, he looks great because he generates his own "alternative facts".
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Quoted from thread about firing of AG since it is applicable to ZK's assertion.

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While the EO itself doesn't mention anything about a "Muslim ban", one of his big campaign points that resonated with his bigoted followers was the explicit mention of a temporary "Muslim ban", which in and of itself, is illegal.

A reasonable minded person could view this EO as a fulfillment of that campaign promise, now would that hold up in court? I don't know but the argument is definitely there.

Oh and there's Giuliani being explicitly asked by Trump to make a Muslim ban that would work under law so there's that.
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Trump is a lot smarter than he looks. He's setting up strawman enemies so when he knocks them down, it looks like he's doing great.

It's all part of his strategy to confuse the public and ultimately de-legitimize true facts. In the end, he looks great because he generates his own "alternative facts".
Will definitely be seeing plenty of this.
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no FDR options for a third term?
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Bump......did everyone vote?
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Bump......did everyone vote?
You fucking prick got my hopes up to see a result!

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