[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by Argo

I've never understood people who feel the need to fill up (or charge) even though the range indicator shows you have plenty of range left for your trip.

In most cars the "low fuel" alert comes on at a quarter tank (which is still at least 50 miles of range).

I’ve only had range anxiety twice. Once in my M3 on the BRP going up to Mt. Mitchell when the range estimate dropped from 80 to 30 in a very short period of time. We coasted back down and made it with 25 miles of range left. The other was in my model 3 perf when I did a mountain drive and back to the supercharger - the trip estimate was completely inaccurate even with my buffer for track mode up the mountain - arrived with 6 miles of range. Car was basically in limp mode.

[Argo]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

I’ve only had range anxiety twice. Once in my M3 on the BRP going up to Mt. Mitchell when the range estimate dropped from 80 to 30 in a very short period of time. We coasted back down and made it with 25 miles of range left. The other was in my model 3 perf when I did a mountain drive and back to the supercharger - the trip estimate was completely inaccurate even with my buffer for track mode up the mountain - arrived with 6 miles of range. Car was basically in limp mode.

Teslas are notorious for overestimating remaining range. Most other BEVs and ICE cars do the opposite though.

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by Argo

Teslas are notorious for overestimating remaining range. Most other BEVs and ICE cars do the opposite though.

Not in trip mode. The normally displayed estimated range is based on 240 wh/mi or so. But the trip range takes into account elevation changes etc. and factors in real time driving behavior and consumption, and you can see on the display how the range estimate is being affected and trending relative to initial estimate. I’ve done trips where it’s very accurate. If I push it a little, I need the aforementioned buffer. In this case it wasn’t enough.

[bacampbe]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

Not in trip mode. The normally displayed estimated range is based on 240 wh/mi or so. But the trip range takes into account elevation changes etc. and factors in real time driving behavior and consumption, and you can see on the display how the range estimate is being affected and trending relative to initial estimate. I’ve done trips where it’s very accurate. If I push it a little, I need the aforementioned buffer. In this case it wasn’t enough.

I was going to say this as well. While the range by the green battery icon is pretty much worthless, the estimated charge remaining at destination in the nav system is spot on, or sometimes even conservative.

[bacampbe]

Originally Posted by Argo

I've never understood people who feel the need to fill up (or charge) even though the range indicator shows you have plenty of range left for your trip.

In most cars the "low fuel" alert comes on at a quarter tank (which is still at least 50 miles of range).

In her defense, it looked like stop-and-go traffic all the way to her destination, which can quickly kill ICE range. (But if she had asked me, I would have said put it in eco mode and let the stop/start feature do it's thing.)

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by Argo

I've never understood people who feel the need to fill up (or charge) even though the range indicator shows you have plenty of range left for your trip.

In most cars the "low fuel" alert comes on at a quarter tank (which is still at least 50 miles of range).

I guess because sometimes you use more fuel then expected

If stay ready, you don’t have to get ready

[BMWGirlFL]

The FT-Se boasts dimensions similar to the Toyota GR Supra, measuring 172.4 inches in length, 74.6 inches in width, 48 inches in height, and with a wheelbase of 104.3 inches.

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[MisanoblueZ4]

Originally Posted by BMWGirlFL

https://www.arenaev.com/toyota_ftse_...-news-2623.php
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Physical button people are going to lose their minds seeing this

[ebirotedu]

I think all-glass cockpits are an example of when newer isn't necessarily better myself.

VW totally ruined the current generation GTI & Golf R this way.

Pretty happy with ID7 because it has physical controls. I practically grind my teeth every time a reviewer says the Z4 loses points for not having "the latest" version of iDrive, as if newer is always better.

Originally Posted by MisanoblueZ4

Physical button people are going to lose their minds seeing this

[Living Dead]

I couldn't agree more, I wish the Z4 came with analog gauges, really the only thing I want is for my iTunes to play through the stereo and that could be accomplished with a wire jack, all the electronic nonsense and safety nannies can go. The car would probably be 20K less.

Originally Posted by ebirotedu

I think all-glass cockpits are an example of when newer isn't necessarily better myself.

VW totally ruined the current generation GTI & Golf R this way.

Pretty happy with ID7 because it has physical controls. I practically grind my teeth every time a reviewer says the Z4 loses points for not having "the latest" version of iDrive, as if newer is always better.

[vertigo corsa]

2023 Japan Mobility Show (pka Tokyo Auto Show)

https://youtube.com/shorts/3b_gaWgGZ...QA7KlzBHZt9I1d

[BMWGirlFL]