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      12-17-2019, 10:49 PM   #2597
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A bit of a rant but, I wish Alpina brought more of their lineup into the USA, we used to have the B6 and B7, but now the B6 is gone for us at least.
I thought there might be a B8 coming but if it was there should be spy pics by now I would have thought
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      12-18-2019, 01:10 AM   #2598
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Added a bunch of SOPs for 2020 and a first guess for SOP of the G09 X8.
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      12-18-2019, 07:30 AM   #2599
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Added a bunch of SOPs for 2020 and a first guess for SOP of the G09 X8.
Interesting that we're closing on 6mo from SOP and still no official models for the G22. Think they're holding it back since it'll be so similar to the G8X?

Based on November SOP, seems like we really won't see any until 2021. Pretty disappointing. I don't think I'm interested in one anymore, but still eager to see the official unveiling.
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      12-18-2019, 08:43 AM   #2600
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Interesting that we're closing on 6mo from SOP and still no official models for the G22. Think they're holding it back since it'll be so similar to the G8X?
Your question wasn't clear, but if by "no official models" you mean "no official pictures", keep in mind that the F32 4 Series Coupe, which started production at the same time of year that the G22 will, did not make its press debut until June. There were leaks ahead of that, but June was the official release.

Regarding the G8x M3/M4, the official press release/photos for those will come after the 4 Series Coupe, likely in the last quarter of 2020.

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Based on November SOP, seems like we really won't see any until 2021. Pretty disappointing. I don't think I'm interested in one anymore, but still eager to see the official unveiling.
Again your words weren't clear to me since you say November here yet acknowledge above that the car is only six months away. Perhaps you are referring specifically to the RWD M440i model?

At any rate, I would expect initial G22 deliveries in the US by late August.
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      12-18-2019, 10:35 AM   #2601
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WoW X8 pretty much confirmed

Likely SOP for G09 X8 is July 2022.
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If a car is ordered at SOP, when does the order have to be in and generally when would it be at dealers? For example, if a US LCI 5 series was to be ordered, when can I get my order in and when would I get it?

I ask because I have a lease ending April 29, 2020. Typically I've extended my lease a couple months, but if it doesn't arrive until say August or Sept, not sure if they'd let me extend that long, even with an order number. Any thoughts? Thanks!
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      12-18-2019, 11:22 AM   #2603
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If a car is ordered at SOP, when does the order have to be in and generally when would it be at dealers? For example, if a US LCI 5 series was to be ordered, when can I get my order in and when would I get it?

I ask because I have a lease ending April 29, 2020. Typically I've extended my lease a couple months, but if it doesn't arrive until say August or Sept, not sure if they'd let me extend that long, even with an order number. Any thoughts? Thanks!
You can extend up to 6 months with a order number. When you would receive your car depends entirely on if/when the dealer has an allocation. It typically takes 2-3 months from start of production to receiving your car if it's coming from Germany, assuming there's no delays with certification that sometimes happens when a new model arrives.
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      12-18-2019, 03:57 PM   #2604
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      12-18-2019, 04:42 PM   #2605
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If G80 SOP starts Nov 2020, can we order one for delivery in Feb2021? I am wondering since my F80 ZCP lease ends in Feb 2021...Thanks.
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      12-18-2019, 06:32 PM   #2606
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Your question wasn't clear, but if by "no official models" you mean "no official pictures", keep in mind that the F32 4 Series Coupe, which started production at the same time of year that the G22 will, did not make its press debut until June. There were leaks ahead of that, but June was the official release.

Regarding the G8x M3/M4, the official press release/photos for those will come after the 4 Series Coupe, likely in the last quarter of 2020.



Again your words weren't clear to me since you say November here yet acknowledge above that the car is only six months away. Perhaps you are referring specifically to the RWD M440i model?

At any rate, I would expect initial G22 deliveries in the US by late August.
yep typo on the first half, i meant pictures.

Regarding November SOP, i was talking about G8x. Sorry, it all made sense in my head since i'm mostly focused on G22/G82. But I am losing interest based on timing (my lease is up in August) and the leaked images don't look good to me.
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      12-18-2019, 10:19 PM   #2607
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WoW X8 pretty much confirmed

Likely SOP for G09 X8 is July 2022.
Will we see a concept next year?
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      12-20-2019, 10:27 PM   #2608
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      12-22-2019, 09:26 PM   #2609
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Can't wait for the new G80's to be released!
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      12-24-2019, 01:34 AM   #2610
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Hello! What do you think about facelifting G02 in 2021 (like G01)?
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      12-24-2019, 03:41 PM   #2611
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Still very interested in the X8.
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      12-30-2019, 03:29 PM   #2612
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530e LCI larger battery than 12 KWh? I have a recollection that California was going to require an EPA range > 30 mi to qualify for a car pool sticker. If that recollection is more or less correct, are you hearing anything about the 530e LCI getting the 5th Gen battery technology to hit this range? I'd bet that CA sells the majority of the 530e models in the USA because of the car pool sticker and if my recollection is correct, it would seem that BMW would try to meet that target--particularly as BMW has signed on to the CA air quality standards.
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Any word on changes for the 2021 F87?
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      01-07-2020, 09:24 AM   #2614
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Any word on changes for the 2021 F87?
SAME! Either I pull the trigger on a new 2020 M2C now, or wait until summer is mostly over to hope that the EOP/2021 M2C has some last year nifty changes to the interior or exterior.

Does anyone have insight?
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      01-08-2020, 09:45 AM   #2615
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Recent announcement by BMW that the CLAR platform is to be revised from the 2021 model year forward to allow for underfloor batteries in lieu of the under-seat location for current PHEV's.

The reasons are for

1) increased battery size,
2) increased fuel tank size from the current 10 gal, and
3) to restore trunk size.

They clearly state that the upcoming i4 and it's ICE grand coupe will have this. I wonder if the 2021 LCI 530e also get this change? There are reports that the current-production 2020 530e models have all of the electronics expected to be in the LCI and only minor cosmetic changes are expected.

It would be great if this new CLAR platform with it's capability of having a PHEV battery with a 30 mi EPA range is in the 530e LCI. I'm sure BMW will want to closely hold this info. It would kill the prospect of my purchasing another 2020 530e. I would wait.

I like my current 2020 530e so much, I may buy another one when my 330e lease tolls at the end of June. It serves for 90% of my local driving on EV power and is almost as good as having a full EV for a lot less money than anything other than Tesla Model 3.

A 30 mi EPA EV range would be good for 100% of my local use and a complete substitute of a full EV, with the extra weight of a 250 mi battery instead allocated to an ICE for long trips.

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      01-08-2020, 10:14 AM   #2616
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Recent announcement by BMW that the CLAR platform is to be revised from the 2021 model year forward
Froehlich stated this will happen in 2021. He does not speak in terms of model years. Those are a North American construct that most of the rest of the world ignores.

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I disagree.

If the 4 Series PHEV launches in the 2021 calendar year, it may have this revision of BMW's CLAR hybrid drivetrain, yes. Unless BMW plans to update the 5 Series PHEV in 2021 or later, a year or more after the LCI, it will not receive this technology.
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      01-08-2020, 12:29 PM   #2617
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Upcoming plug-in X3 is missing from first post

What gives?
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      01-08-2020, 02:02 PM   #2618
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What gives?
It's official.

https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/globa...0e?language=en

I don't think a US specific release was issued. Here's some unofficial info.

https://www.autoblog.com/2019/12/31/...pricing-49545/

US production started in December:

https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1655256
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