[phantom330]

Originally Posted by grumpybear

They are all getting out of the price range for the normal buyer (the shitty value of the US dollar it's helping that either) and all 3 have been just living off of their reputations for years now. Lots of car makers are closing the gap and making very good cars that drive well, are well made and get good gas mileage. Why spend 40K plus for a BMW when you can spend 25K on a Malibu that's a nice car and put 15K in your pocket. Please don't give me the lame "driving experience" excuse either, a BMW isn't worth 15K more between a new Malibu, Accord, etc just because of the "driving experience" or the level of interior for that matter.

is that why you have a BMW?

I don't think it's a bad looking car, I'd have to drive it to really form an opinion. Call me shallow, but I just would have issues telling somebody I had a Hyundai.

[Kiemyster]

Originally Posted by phantom330

Call me shallow, but I just would have issues telling somebody I had a Hyundai.

same with me. That and Kia. ewh. lol. i had to drive a kia spectra as a rental from avis... let me just say, that fucking entire car is made out of plastic. every god damn part! even most of the seats! its was just a cloth and like .2 inches of padding!

well, i guess this is peoples alternative who are less fortunate to have the kind of money and purchasing power like we all do here @ e90post. so keep that in consideration. in no way do i mean to ripp on people who cant afford such cars like ours. but lets be honest, thats the way of the world (social pyramid).

money talks, bullshit walks

[grumpybear]

Originally Posted by phantom330

is that why you have a BMW?

no, it's because I'm an opportunist. I was able to get one at a ridiculously low price due to the misfortune of others. I'll make a nice profit when I sell it.

[lyjw88]

it is quite impressing that Hyundai got this far in 40 years IMO.

[Pretender]

Originally Posted by lyjw88

it is quite impressing that Hyundai got this far in 40 years IMO.

Well, if you only copy from others, 40 years would be quite a long time.

[miktrebla09]

Wow..some serious badge whoring with a tinge of deep rooted insecurity going on in this thread (with a few exceptions).

hyundai's made some serious strides in the last 10 years. Not too long ago, people were knocking cheap econobox toyotas when they were arriving stateside. Who would've thought then it would hsare the spot as top car producer.

oh, just for fun:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...uz_lexus_rx350

[ianbiz]

Originally Posted by Tranzporter

Hyundai ftl

I really hate how most car brands are loosing thier brand identity, BMW still has alot of it (so does MB, Porsche and a couple others), but cars are looking too similar these days

[elchicoguapo88]

Originally Posted by MTL Bimmer

yeah i think so.......i've driven the sonata for a week or so (rental), its actually not bad.
+1 on the lexus rip off.........my sister has the IS and its the same as the camry lol!!

Actually it is not a Camry. The IS doesn't share anything with the Camry but it does share its platform with the Lexus GS

[TheAcAvenger]

Originally Posted by elchicoguapo88

Actually it is not a Camry. The IS doesn't share anything with the Camry but it does share its platform with the Lexus GS

You're both wrong, lol. A Camry is an ES. Camrys have ALWAYS been ES's.