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      08-08-2017, 03:10 PM   #14609
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You could quite literally take this statement from Trump this morning and replace reference to the US with N.K. and claim it was a release from Kim. If he keeps this up it'll end up in a serious conflict with massive implications.

“North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States,” Trump told journalists at his club in Bedminster, New Jersey. “They will be met with the fire and the fury like the world has never seen.”
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You could quite literally take this statement from Trump this morning and replace reference to the US with N.K. and claim it was a release from Kim. If he keeps this up it'll end up in a serious conflict with massive implications.

“North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States,” Trump told journalists at his club in Bedminster, New Jersey. “They will be met with the fire and the fury like the world has never seen.”
I'm just going to say it: Omg we are all going to die
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I'm just going to say it: Omg we are all going to die
Has it not been said until just now? Someone needs to put out a public service announcement to...., the world I'd suppose.
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Has it not been said until just now? Someone needs to put out a public service announcement to...., the world I'd suppose.
I've been saying it for months that this is a completely fucked situation.

You can't have the leader of the US acting like a petulant child every day. I don't understand how this is actually accepted as the norm at this point nor how roughly half of the US population supports this.

I attempted to have a discussion about this quote and the current situation with a close friend today. His response (paraphrased) was that the US has more nukes and will shoot down anything NK sends up in the air. Also, that war only sucks for the loser, and America's going to win.

FUCKING INSANE.
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I've been saying it for months that this is a completely fucked situation.

You can't have the leader of the US acting like a petulant child every day. I don't understand how this is actually accepted as the norm at this point nor how roughly half of the US population supports this.

I attempted to have a discussion about this quote and the current situation with a close friend today. His response (paraphrased) was that the US has more nukes and will shoot down anything NK sends up in the air. Also, that war only sucks for the loser, and America's going to win.

FUCKING INSANE.
This is what they wanted and as much as we want to shout this being insane, it ain't helping.

I just woke up and I'm scared to read the news. That statement yesterday hopefully will make it to the history books.
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I've been saying it for months that this is a completely fucked situation.

You can't have the leader of the US acting like a petulant child every day. I don't understand how this is actually accepted as the norm at this point nor how roughly half of the US population supports this.

I attempted to have a discussion about this quote and the current situation with a close friend today. His response (paraphrased) was that the US has more nukes and will shoot down anything NK sends up in the air. Also, that war only sucks for the loser, and America's going to win.

FUCKING INSANE.
But you don't understand, Hilary Clinton had EMAILZ ... And back in the 1800s Democrats did something that we don't agree with in 2017.
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But you don't understand, Hilary Clinton had EMAILZ ... And back in the 1800s Democrats did something that we don't agree with in 2017.
I guess we are about to see how this America alone politicy is going to go down. The rest of the world is pulling away from the us so fast even sanctions have been mentioned already if the us starts a nuclear war.

I did not see this coming
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Sigh.
The decades of 'talking it out' with NK are now at a head. Clinton tells us they're going to be good boys. They advance their capabilities. Bush...same. Obama...same.
And, here we are.

Btw. If you watch trumps meeting where 'fire and fury' was said; he read that. Meaning this was our best move according to intel/commanders. Confuse/recalibrate their thinking?

It's a mess that trump inherited, but NK is now on the front burner.

Long'ish read, but this gives options and history a good going over.
In summary: None of the options are good.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...-earth/528717/

If you listen to bill clinton back then, it sounds eerily similar to Obama's Iran Deal.
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Sigh.
The decades of 'talking it out' with NK are now at a head. Clinton tells us they're going to be good boys. They advance their capabilities. Bush...same. Obama...same.
And, here we are.

Btw. If you watch trumps meeting where 'fire and fury' was said; he read that. Meaning this was our best move according to intel/commanders. Confuse/recalibrate their thinking?

It's a mess that trump inherited, but NK is now on the front burner.

Long'ish read, but this gives options and history a good going over.
In summary: None of the options are good.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...-earth/528717/

If you listen to bill clinton back then, it sounds eerily similar to Obama's Iran Deal.
Sigh.
I think you guys just peed in a pot of boiling oil.
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I think you guys just peed in a pot of boiling oil.
Should the world just let that pot boil over on its own? It doesn't matter who the nukes are pointed at. Once they launch, the whole world will suffer the fallout
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Should the world just let that pot boil over on its own? It doesn't matter who the nukes are pointed at. Once they launch, the whole world will suffer the fallout
I'm aware.
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I'm aware.
I didn't pay much attention last night to my normal observation of where to hole up the family locally when the glowing rain starts.

Might be time to spend some birthday money at the sporting goods store #stockpiling_ammo
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I didn't pay much attention last night to my normal observation of where to hole up the family locally when the glowing rain starts.

Might be time to spend some birthday money at the sporting goods store #stockpiling_ammo
Heh.

I'm stressing over the markets lol
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So the Feds just raided paul manafort's crib

ruh roh shaggy!!!
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So the Feds just raided paul manafort's crib

ruh roh shaggy!!!
Does a judge have to ok a house raid like that or how does it work exactly? Can they raid someones house just based on suspicion alone or do they need some sort of evidence to justify it?
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Does a judge have to ok a house raid like that or how does it work exactly? Can they raid someones house just based on suspicion alone or do they need some sort of evidence to justify it?
pretty sure they'll need to show probable cause to search (probably something in there lol) because i doubt there's any exigent circumstances (we can hear manafort shredding docs!)
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This is a bit of a read (and I'm sure it will be just fake news to some), but for everyone else it sums everything up quite nicely and it's a very plausible theory imo. It all makes very much sense.
And if Manafort is in the shitter like it very much seems like, that meeting him, Donnie Jr and Kushner had with the very people who are knee deep in this money laundering scheme just got a whole lot more interesting.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...he-launders-it
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pretty sure they'll need to show probable cause to search (probably something in there lol) because i doubt there's any exigent circumstances (we can hear manafort shredding docs!)
Yea I thought as much. Interesting!
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Does a judge have to ok a house raid like that or how does it work exactly? Can they raid someones house just based on suspicion alone or do they need some sort of evidence to justify it?
they definitely needed a judge to ok the raid, so they would have to provide evidence as to the reason they needed to raid his crib. so either they presented evidence that suggest criminal activity, or they felt paul manafort was withholding information that could be possibly destroyed.

that's the best summary i can come up with while playing internet lawyer lol.
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The mob and money laundering thing, again.

A writer from vanity fair and now left extremists daily kos. Call when someone legitimate runs with that story.
Daily kos. How do you stomach that garbage? Alex Jones in skinny jeans, with purple hair and a lisp.
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Sigh.


Btw. If you watch trumps meeting where 'fire and fury' was said; he read that. Meaning this was our best move according to intel/commanders. Confuse/recalibrate their thinking?




Sigh.
No. He did not read it, it has been confirmed to be "off the cuff" by his coms team. The paper he had was related to something else entirely. That was all Trump, being Trump. Which in short is the main issue.

I don't disagree that NK policy has been fractured and inefficient for years. That said, stronger economic sanctions and public diplomacy are important. Taunting an unhinged dictator with rhetoric is not a smart play.

The whole point of civilized society is that we aren't supposed to lower ourselves to our enemy's level of civility. As soon as you start publicly playing in the weeds like this shit can go pear shaped quickly. Save the aggressive language and action for specific actions, most likely behind the scenes. Not at the golf club.
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