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      05-12-2021, 07:53 AM   #23
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That will happen in September when I drive out to see my daughter in Austin.

Keep refining that black stuff and keep the pumps going until then.
Will do and get your rest on for the marathon trip to Austin.
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      05-15-2021, 08:33 PM   #24
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This is simple to answer

When you buy the adaptive suspension for $700 on a Z4 3.0 you get electronically adjustable dampers. When you don't pay the $700 you get fixed dampers that don't change with the buttons. In this case the eco, comfort, sport settings only control shift points and steering - not suspension. The $700 adjustable suspension allows you to change the the stiffness of the dampers with the same buttons that the non adaptive car has. Its crazy worth it as you can set up the car for luxury cruising (Comfort mode) or for track day (Sport Plus mode). Ive read articles that say a Z4 in sport plus with traction control turned off handles as well as an M2 Comp. Hope that answers your question.


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Anyone without the Adaptive M suspension - under the Sport Individual settings does it give you the option to set the dampers?

I can't imagine it would as I don't think you have dampers that can be modified. Right?

I'm very confused about what I bought when I added the Adaptive M Suspension option other than lowering the car 10mm. If I set the dampers to Comfort in the Sport Individual mode do I lose the adaptive nature of the suspension? I would like that to be case but I don't think it works that way.

I'm still feeling things out with the settings and would like to find a way to really soften the ride but I think it will always stay in Adaptive mode and firm up the suspension as it sees fit.
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      05-16-2021, 02:11 AM   #25
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When you buy the adaptive suspension for $700 on a Z4 3.0 you get electronically adjustable dampers.
Wow $700. It's £1,950 in the UK
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      05-16-2021, 09:14 AM   #26
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Wow $700. It's £1,950 in the UK
Sobering snapshot of the US Economy.
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      05-16-2021, 11:54 AM   #27
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Sobering snapshot of the US Economy.
Not sure what you mean but if our price was equal to the British price (GBP in USD) the Adaptive Suspension would cost us $2,749.50 United States Dollars.

I like the $700 number & am sure that the guys in Britain, where I lived for 8 years, would be thrilled to get our price. USD in GBP 496.45 Pound Sterling.

Spread is exchange rate & the VAT in the UK & Europe.

But do agree our economy is on the edge of a cliff & ready to go over. Inflation!!
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      05-16-2021, 12:11 PM   #28
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Not sure what you mean but if our price was equal to the British price (GBP in USD) the Adaptive Suspension would cost us $2,749.50 United States Dollars.

I like the $700 number & am sure that the guys in Britain, where I lived for 8 years, would be thrilled to get our price. USD in GBP 496.45 Pound Sterling.

Spread is exchange rate & the VAT in the UK & Europe.

But do agree our economy is on the edge of a cliff & ready to go over. Inflation!!
Starting to see the inflation already in the gas prices. What I mean is the dollar is steadily losing ground against the quid and the velocity is increasing geometrically.

Agree that our friends across the pond would love to get our prices here. In some ways, the UK price might be an unjust punishment for Brexit.
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Option "2VF" in Spain for 710€ and I guess is the same in the rest of Europe, but it sounds more than in the UK it is part of a pack with other options.
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Option "2VF" in Spain for 710€ and I guess is the same in the rest of Europe, but it sounds more than in the UK it is part of a pack with other options.
It is part of a pack that includes:-

19" Bicolour Jet Black Double-spoke style 799 M alloy wheels
M Sport Brakes with Blue Calipers
M Sport Seat Belts
BMW Individual high-gloss Shadow Line with extended contents

I would have been happy to include the adaptive suspension at the sort of price paid in US or Spain but I didn't want the larger wheels or the sport brakes etc
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Haven't put but about 110 miles on the car since picking it up last month. Got the Adaptive Suspension and the Dynamic Handling package. Damn glad I did.

Roadster is a screaming demon.
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Haven't put but about 110 miles on the car since picking it up last month. Got the Adaptive Suspension and the Dynamic Handling package. Damn glad I did.

Roadster is a screaming demon.
S30 or M40?

I'm waiting on the later and want to know what to expect.
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S30 or M40?

I'm waiting on the later and want to know what to expect.
30i with the M package too. That powerful engine is all I need, sheesh!
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30i with the M package too. That powerful engine is all I need, sheesh!
Understand, but I can't go from a 6 cylinder back to a 4 let alone paying over 40k for a 4-cylinder.
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Understand, but I can't go from a 6 cylinder back to a 4 let alone paying over 40k for a 4-cylinder.
You should have bought a Corvette - can't go from a V-8 to a 3-liter 6-cylinder engine! Or maybe a V-12 following that logic.

Based on my recent driving experience in a 30i hitting top speeds of 100+ and carving the Tail of the Dragon and Blue Ridge Parkway, I think the only way someone needs the extra two cylinders is if they are taking it to the track. The car is very quick in the 30i form and stupid fast as a 40i. The same with the brakes - you won't need the M-Sport brakes unless you drive autocross or again track your car. I felt zero fade on the smaller brakes.

Spend the 50k for a 4-cyl car instead of 70k for the extra two cylinders and spend the difference on your wife!
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You should have bought a Corvette - can't go from a V-8 to a 3-liter 6-cylinder engine! Or maybe a V-12 following that logic.

Based on my recent driving experience in a 30i hitting top speeds of 100+ and carving the Tail of the Dragon and Blue Ridge Parkway, I think the only way someone needs the extra two cylinders is if they are taking it to the track. The car is very quick in the 30i form and stupid fast as a 40i. The same with the brakes - you won't need the M-Sport brakes unless you drive autocross or again track your car. I felt zero fade on the smaller brakes.

Spend the 50k for a 4-cyl car instead of 70k for the extra two cylinders and spend the difference on your wife!
With that logic, I would have bought a Miata.

With the wife, I spend enough on her already. It's my time for a toy.
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Understand, but I can't go from a 6 cylinder back to a 4 let alone paying over 40k for a 4-cylinder.
You should have bought a Corvette - can't go from a V-8 to a 3-liter 6-cylinder engine! Or maybe a V-12 following that logic.

Based on my recent driving experience in a 30i hitting top speeds of 100+ and carving the Tail of the Dragon and Blue Ridge Parkway, I think the only way someone needs the extra two cylinders is if they are taking it to the track. The car is very quick in the 30i form and stupid fast as a 40i. The same with the brakes - you won't need the M-Sport brakes unless you drive autocross or again track your car. I felt zero fade on the smaller brakes.

Spend the 50k for a 4-cyl car instead of 70k for the extra two cylinders and spend the difference on your wife!
Well said
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Well said
Almost, but the C8 doesn't have a MT and the upcoming Z06 may, but at a 80-90k price tag.

I do not hold malice on those sdrive 30i Z4 buyers. It is a good choice for them. (I did test drive the 30i and was impressed by the power) I just understand that the M40 is what I want.
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Almost, but the C8 doesn't have a MT and the upcoming Z06 may, but at a 80-90k price tag.

I do not hold malice on those sdrive 30i Z4 buyers. It is a good choice for them. (I did test drive the 30i and was impressed by the power) I just understand that the M40 is what I want.
I want the M40i now too! Just read that the F-150 Lightning electric pickup will do 0-60 in the mid-4 second range. Damn, not even going to be able to beat a pickup truck at the light in the 30i!
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I want the M40i now too! Just read that the F-150 Lightning electric pickup will do 0-60 in the mid-4 second range. Damn, not even going to be able to beat a pickup truck at the light in the 30i!
Maybe you will, 3-4 tons is a heavy load to move from the line. also, you will get alot more range.
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