[///M TOWN]

Do you think the G29 Z4 M40i holds it value well… ?

What are your thoughts on the subject !?

[MisanoblueZ4]

No, the resale value is not good in comparison to Corvette/Miata/Porsche initially. Heck base C8’s with MSRP of 60k are still selling used for more then they were supposed to cost new.

For used buyers of the Z4 this is helpful, my 2021 dropped nearly 20k in value since new putting this luxury purchase into where I could obtain one.

Question of where the “bottom” of the depreciation curve will eventually settle. If this is the last generation of Z4, IMO 25-35k range is where they will eventually end up after a decade for a clean car.

The Z4 is kinda in the same depreciation profile as a Jaguar F-Type….harsh depreciation in the first 3-5 years.

[Westside Guy]

Originally Posted by MisanoblueZ4

No, the resale value is not good in comparison to Corvette/Miata/Porsche initially. Heck base C8’s with MSRP of 60k are still selling used for more then they were supposed to cost new.

For used buyers of the Z4 this is helpful, my 2021 dropped nearly 20k in value since new putting this luxury purchase into where I could obtain one.

Question of where the “bottom” of the depreciation curve will eventually settle. If this is the last generation of Z4, IMO 25-35k range is where they will eventually end up after a decade for a clean car.

The Z4 is kinda in the same depreciation profile as a Jaguar F-Type….harsh depreciation in the first 3-5 years.

In my opinion, our depreciation is better than what is being experienced by the buyers in the 8 series!

[Argo]

Originally Posted by Westside Guy

In my opinion, our depreciation is better than what is being experienced by the buyers in the 8 series!

That's not really saying much though...

Compared to a Corvette or Boxster (which would be cross shopped with the Z4) I definitely expect the depreciation percentage to be meaningfully larger.

[Bimmerfun82]

I'm seeing $17k depreciation in 10k miles or 22% if I traded it now based on a decent offer from my dealer. I'm two MY's out since the 22's were held up in Supply chain drama. I could probably sell it myself for $65k which would be 15% depreciation or $12k loss.

By comparison my M3 was a loss of $6k for 10k miles on a dealer trade. But at the time demand was very high and supply limited.

[Argo]

Oh yeah I don't think we're seeing 2021/2022 used car prices again. Even the Porsche market is deflating these days.

[MisanoblueZ4]

Originally Posted by Westside Guy

In my opinion, our depreciation is better than what is being experienced by the buyers in the 8 series!

The 8 series is a financial disaster for the first owner. But then again if an individual is well off enough to buy it new they may not sweat it’s depreciation.

[Westside Guy]

Originally Posted by MisanoblueZ4

The 8 series is a financial disaster for the first owner. But then again if an individual is well off enough to buy it new they may not sweat it’s depreciation.

I recently told a friend who was looking at the 8 series to consider a low mileage used as opposed to a new one.

[Argo]

Originally Posted by MisanoblueZ4

The 8 series is a financial disaster for the first owner. But then again if an individual is well off enough to buy it new they may not sweat it’s depreciation.

Every car from every manufacturer in that segment depreciates like a rock. It's the nature of the beast.

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by Westside Guy

I recently told a friend who was looking at the 8 series to consider a low mileage used as opposed to a new one.

Here’s a great example of what you’re talking about - M8 with low miles for half off MSRP (45% plus negotiation). Granted, it’s a 2020 model, but…7k miles, clean carfax. Better off buying a $150k 911

https://www.unitedbmw.com/inventory/...z0c02lcd92710/

[Westside Guy]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

Here’s a great example of what you’re talking about - M8 with low miles for half off MSRP (45% plus negotiation). Granted, it’s a 2020 model, but…7k miles, clean carfax. Better off buying a $150k 911

https://www.unitedbmw.com/inventory/...z0c02lcd92710/

A 2020 with only 7234 miles is a perfect example.

[BEAR-AvHistory]

My 2020 @ 20000 miles is down $19,000 from what I actually paid not MSRP. Was delivered Feb 2020

EDIT Just looked up the 2022 M4C & its doing good. Only down $7,000. Was delivered in 2021 & will be 2 years old week after Thanksgiving.

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory

My 2020 @ 20000 miles is down $19,000 from what I actually paid not MSRP.

Those were the days! I made money or broke even on my 2020 vehicles

[Argo]

Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory

My 2020 @ 20000 miles is down $19,000 from what I actually paid not MSRP. Was delivered Feb 2020

EDIT Just looked up the 2022 M4C & its doing good. Only down $7,000. Was delivered in 2021 & will be 2 years old week after Thanksgiving.

Just to be clear: You're implying you paid under sticker here, right?

I'm getting mine at 5% under MSRP in two or three weeks.

[khp3655]

I just bought my 2022 30 with 9.5k mi. The sticker price was just under $59000. I got it for $46000 with 2 years remaining on the warranty. That's about a 22% depreciation.

I agree with the posts here saying that people who buy luxury cars generally have the funds to deal with the depreciation and it is no secret that BMWs lose a lot of value in the first few years. A lot of that is the cost of repairs as the cars age out of warranties vs non-luxury brands.

Most people who can afford a late model BMW don't have to buy used, so there is a drop off in demand. It also creates a value sweet spot for people who want to put in the effort of finding the right late model used luxury car.

[Balr14]

The Z4 has always been a niche market that has limited interest and will always have a reputation for high maintenance and repair costs. I don't think it will value very well.

[MisanoblueZ4]

Originally Posted by Balr14

The Z4 has always been a niche market that has limited interest and will always have a reputation for high maintenance and repair costs. I don't think it will value very well.

Hopefully the reliability will hold up as the years go on. Allegedly when Toyota reviewed the car with BMW it got their stamp of approval on the reliability standpoint for Supra.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by Balr14

The Z4 has always been a niche market that has limited interest and will always have a reputation for high maintenance and repair costs. I don't think it will value very well.

That’s funny because my m car has a fantastic resale value

So that’s not entirely true, is it !?

[MisanoblueZ4]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

That’s fun because my m car has a fantastic resale value

So that’s not entirely true, is it !?

I think the M models are an exception for sure. Unfortunately our Z4 M40I will not qualify for M status just as 340I or 440I models do not.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by MisanoblueZ4

I think the M models are an exception for sure. Unfortunately our Z4 M40I will not qualify for M status just as 340I or 440I models do not.

Understood… 💯

[BEAR-AvHistory]

Originally Posted by Argo

Just to be clear: You're implying you paid under sticker here, right?

I'm getting mine at 5% under MSRP in two or three weeks.

Not implying did get under MSRP on both. Paid the dealer MSRP for the M4C but BMWCCA sent me a check for $1500 when I sent them the paperwork. Dealer/BMWFS also honored the 0.9% I signed for even though the build/shipping/stop-sale craziness pushed the delivery beyond the end date for the program.

Both were under sticker. Got the 2020 a few weeks before the SHTF. All in was just about 15% off sticker. Some rebate, discount, BMWCCA, unused milage (440MPPSK Coupe) prior lease, BMWFS good customer money in the forum of a two day M-Performance Driving School at Greer SC.

Was the only BMW I have ever bought off the lot. Was the exact car I went in to order except for the roof. My other convertibles had/have the moonlight version. My Z4 has the plain black.

The M4C was a good buy, got $1500 BMWCCA money & the car at MSRP & 0.9%. Reason it was a good buy was at the time Mid to Late 2021 dealers were whacking the crap out of buyers with ADM's up to $40K on the M series cars.

[BEAR-AvHistory]

Originally Posted by khp3655

I just bought my 2022 30 with 9.5k mi. The sticker price was just under $59000. I got it for $46000 with 2 years remaining on the warranty. That's about a 22% depreciation.

I agree with the posts here saying that people who buy luxury cars generally have the funds to deal with the depreciation and it is no secret that BMWs lose a lot of value in the first few years. A lot of that is the cost of repairs as the cars age out of warranties vs non-luxury brands.

Most people who can afford a late model BMW don't have to buy used, so there is a drop off in demand. It also creates a value sweet spot for people who want to put in the effort of finding the right late model used luxury car.

Easy way to see what BMW thinks a car is worth in the future is to look at the lease details on residual value.

You can also check residual value of other car leases to compare.

I think big bucks car prices tank with age is because most people looking for a big bucks car can afford a new one. This pushes the used BMW down market to the used car buyer. Cars at the national average for new cars will not fall as fast because that market is closer to the used market price wise.