[Bimmerfun82]

6 weeks away from SOP and no US configurator.

[BMWGirlFL]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

6 weeks away from SOP and no US configurator.

Slide says SOC is 1/31. DE & UK likely same.

[MisanoblueZ4]

So many negative comments about the Z4 not offering a manual in the enthusiast community.…..that wipes out much of the “gripes” about this generation. Very curious how the initial deposits go. Will it be a tsunami of interest or ripples in a pond.

[rikwynnpa]

My sense is after Jan 31 we'll see the MT car available to configure. BMW doesnt want to get MY25 cars online too early is my thought. I wouldnt expect to see the new colors and the MT option until after Feb 1

[rikwynnpa]

When you realize that the 6 cyl Boxster GTS is >$100K this car presents a great value vs other sports cars. I think the 6MT will sell very well.

Originally Posted by MisanoblueZ4

So many negative comments about the Z4 not offering a manual in the enthusiast community.…..that wipes out much of the “gripes” about this generation. Very curious how the initial deposits go. Will it be a tsunami of interest or ripples in a pond.

[BEAR-AvHistory]

Originally Posted by rikwynnpa

When you realize that the 6 cyl Boxster GTS is >$100K this car presents a great value vs other sports cars. I think the 6MT will sell very well.

Think for general sales not looking at the competition the car will do well for the rest of its life cycle.

Should be at least close to the normal number of 8ZF sales. Then there will be the new car 6MT or nothing buyer who was looking for something with a high level of performance that never looked at the Z4.

Last you are going to have current Z4 owners that will go to the 6MT putting more Z4's in the used car market.

On the Z4 vs 718-X I expect I am in the minority but I only think they compete against each other on the edges.

The 718-X is a pure sports car. It gives up a number of nice to have items for performance. To me the Z4-M40i is a high performance GT car that keeps all the goodies & comfort items available but still goes like a rocket over the road.

The fringe is the Z4 M40i will post better overall performance numbers than the entry level 718 but will not run with the top of the line Boxster.

My 718 is still in the family & the Z4 is quicker over any stretch of road or straight line.

[Bimmerfun82]

On the 718 v Z4 discussion, two things amaZe me:

1) the prices of the 718. Prob driven by EOL/migration to BEV. Base boxsters are pushing $90k+.
2) the buyers of the 718. Are they in it for performance or for show? Base boxster is more a raw sports car experience than for eye popping perf stats. The GT4 owners that I’ve met are in a special league. But it’s more P car persona than stepping up from BMW.

[vertigo corsa]

Originally Posted by BMWGirlFL

You may have nailed it. Carbon Fiber trim offered only with Cognac looks like a good bet.

This assumes that the background image is the manual Z4 center console - and not just a random image from an M model used for illustration only during a sales training class...

The slide also shows a pic of a black 827M wheel, but it doesn't lead me to assume these will be offered on the car.

[BMWGirlFL]

Originally Posted by vertigo corsa

This assumes that the background image is the manual Z4 center console - and not just a random image from an M model used for illustration only during a sales training class...

The slide also shows a pic of a black 827M wheel, but it doesn't lead me to assume these will be offered on the car.

[Kevin45E]

Originally Posted by BMWGirlFL

Attachment 3369110

Where is this image from?

[BMWGirlFL]

Originally Posted by Kevin45E

Where is this image from?

https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/...drive-gallery/

[ebirotedu]

Parked behind a brand new and totally pristine 718 cayman GT4 RS in the garage at work the other day (was not driving the Z4), along with a lot of other fancy new iron that’s normally never in the garage.

Heard later there was a big sales meeting in the building. Makes sense because if an engineer/dev owned any of those cars they wouldn’t drive them in the extreme cold or when there was gravel anywhere on the roads. 😂

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

On the 718 v Z4 discussion, two things amaZe me:

1) the prices of the 718. Prob driven by EOL/migration to BEV. Base boxsters are pushing $90k+.
2) the buyers of the 718. Are they in it for performance or for show? Base boxster is more a raw sports car experience than for eye popping perf stats. The GT4 owners that I’ve met are in a special league. But it’s more P car persona than stepping up from BMW.

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by ebirotedu

Parked behind a brand new and totally pristine 718 cayman GT4 RS in the garage at work the other day (was not driving the Z4), along with a lot of other fancy new iron that’s normally never in the garage.

Heard later there was a big sales meeting in the building. Makes sense because if an engineer/dev owned any of those cars they wouldn’t drive them in the extreme cold or when there was gravel anywhere on the roads. 😂

GT4RS $250k+
GT4 $150k+

Frothy market still.

There is a beautiful certified 911T over at Hennessy Roswell that I’d take over either of those ($155k).

[MadBullogna]

Originally Posted by BMWGirlFL

https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/...drive-gallery/

Top & parking brake scary mixup stories no more, hah.

[tracer bullet]

Originally Posted by BMWGirlFL

https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/...drive-gallery/

Interesting that the other shots have that bezel around the shifter covered. I'd earlier thought it was to cover up the material i.e. maybe it was CF trim. Looks like piano black and maybe it was to keep it from getting scratched? Surprised they cared for what's basically a tester.

[Kevin45E]

Originally Posted by tracer bullet

Interesting that the other shots have that bezel around the shifter covered. I'd earlier thought it was to cover up the material i.e. maybe it was CF trim. Looks like piano black and maybe it was to keep it from getting scratched? Surprised they cared for what's basically a tester.

I am guessing that the uncovered console picture was provided to C&D by BMW and is not the same prototype as the prototype with the covered console and that the stitched together cover IS hiding something from view. The lighting and graininess of picture make it difficult to be sure but there appears to be CF showing at the base of the convertible switch. We’ll know for sure in a little over a week.

[Tuxedo]

first sign of March and April 2024 SOP for MY25. 8-series, i5, iX info.

Update when I see Z4

[Tuxedo]

Z4 order guide is on BMW for paper order

[ph.z4]

Originally Posted by Tuxedo

Z4 order guide is on BMW for paper order

My dealer just called and told me the same, asked me to come in to finalize the order today.