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      04-24-2020, 09:33 AM   #45
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Don't forget, they're getting Merc engines though...
Yeah, thats true. But I dont think the Mercedes engine will lift them up into the top three. They've done a great job recovering from their Honda years, but they weren't anywhere near Redbull when both of them were using Renault.
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      04-24-2020, 09:39 AM   #46
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You know what...it could happen,I did mention a while ago of possibility of Giov being moved up with Mick S just not ready despite his insistence that he is. Sainz is fiercely competitive and we all know two number 1's in Ferrari just won't work.
Not denying it wouldn't happen, stranger things have happened in F1 in the past I just doubt that Vettel would accept a slide down the grid.
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Not denying it wouldn't happen, stranger things have happened in F1 in the past I just doubt that Vettel would accept a slide down the grid.
Probably. That said though Seb knows the writing is on wall at Maranello and however well he's liked there it's Lec who the ones in backroom will be giving the nod to. Seb would be no.1 at McL and with the cut in budgets coming then things will even up a little more...we'll see.
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Actually Leclerc told that his mistakes make him grow cause he analyses his mistakes as far as i remember..

isnt Vettel's biggest downside is his mistakes?
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Actually Leclerc told that his mistakes make him grow cause he analyses his mistakes as far as i remember..

isnt Vettel's biggest downside is his mistakes?
Oh Leclerc said that? That just changes everything then! He's going to be the best driver in the history of driving by next Christmas! Dude I can't begin to count how many employees I had that told me their mistakes are lessons they learn from.
Stop comparing the two. Vettel's first win was in a Toro Rosso. In the rain! Vettel has 4 championships. Leclerc just started. The subject here is Vettel, not Vettel vs Leclerc. Leclerc still has a lot of time to prove himself.

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Oh Leclerc said that? That just changes everything then! He's going to be the best driver in the history of driving by next Christmas! Dude I can't begin to count how many employees I had that told me their mistakes are lessons they learn from.
Stop comparing the two. Vettel's first win was in a Toro Rosso. In the rain! Vettel has 4 championships. Leclerc just started. The subject here is Vettel, not Vettel vs Leclerc. Leclerc still has a lot of time to prove himself.
wow maybe too much caffeine my friend?
well even if i stop, as long as Lec and Vet will be in the same team they ll be compared forever by the whole world..

and of course Gerhard Berger d tell such a thing to Vettel.. wondering how much Vettel is being trusted by the whole Ferrari team recently.. or how much Red Bull guys were trusting him after a Malaysian GP.. couldnt remember the year..
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Oh Leclerc said that? That just changes everything then! He's going to be the best driver in the history of driving by next Christmas! Dude I can't begin to count how many employees I had that told me their mistakes are lessons they learn from.
Stop comparing the two. Vettel's first win was in a Toro Rosso. In the rain! Vettel has 4 championships. Leclerc just started. The subject here is Vettel, not Vettel vs Leclerc. Leclerc still has a lot of time to prove himself.
We should give up. Can't defeat his hate on Vettel fetish.
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Last season , that moment at Silverstone ...
Only a few people knew this : By the impact of the crash , MAX his drivers seat came loose in the car !




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^ Seb as good as gold, he'll own up if he boobed big time.
Lec: WHAT?!
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Probably. That said though Seb knows the writing is on wall at Maranello and however well he's liked there it's Lec who the ones in backroom will be giving the nod to. Seb would be no.1 at McL and with the cut in budgets coming then things will even up a little more...we'll see.
I really do hope the budget cap helps even out the playing field. But from some of the comments I have been reading from the ones in the sport, the budget cap may not actually change all that much. Hence my rather pessimistic outlook on McLarens future success.

That being said, I cant wait to see the new aero regs and budget cap to come into effect. Something needs to change in F1, hopefully these will be the changes that F1 needs
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wow maybe too much caffeine my friend?
well even if i stop, as long as Lec and Vet will be in the same team they ll be compared forever by the whole world..

and of course Gerhard Berger d tell such a thing to Vettel.. wondering how much Vettel is being trusted by the whole Ferrari team recently.. or how much Red Bull guys were trusting him after a Malaysian GP.. couldnt remember the year..
Sepang 2013. Webber is by far the saltiest person to ever step a foot in paddock! He is a loser who spent all his years partnering Vettel giving excuses and blaming others and multi map 21 was the only time he was right to blame someone else. (Although Seb was much faster).
Mark Webber took out Kovalainin and blamed him.
Mark Webber WIPED out Massa and blamed the kerbs for the crash although on-boards show it's him who steered more when the car oversteered.
Mark Webber blamed freaking Helmut Marko for the Turkish GP crash with Vettel when every single person in Red Bull blamed him.
Mark Webber blamed the strategy for losing in Valencia when he lost second position to Alonso.
Mark Fucking Webber attacked Sutil once alleging he blocked him in qualifying in Bahrain to cover his poor performance when the 2 sectors before the incident he was lagging behind Vettel.
Mark Webber blamed the car mirrors for losing in Sepang 2010.

I can go on and on and on about fucking Webber. The only driver I truly hate.

If I were you I would forget Mark Webber because he will weaken your argument.
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We should give up. Can't defeat his hate on Vettel fetish.
Impossible!
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      04-24-2020, 02:27 PM   #57
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Last season , that moment at Silverstone ...
Only a few people knew this : By the impact of the crash , MAX his drivers seat came loose in the car !




He's a snake and as a Ferrari fan I'm trying really hard to like him.
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Sepang 2013. Webber is by far the saltiest person to ever step a foot in paddock! He is a loser who spent all his years partnering Vettel giving excuses and blaming others and multi map 21 was the only time he was right to blame someone else. (Although Seb was much faster).
Mark Webber took out Kovalainin and blamed him.
Mark Webber WIPED out Massa and blamed the kerbs for the crash although on-boards show it's him who steered more when the car oversteered.
Mark Webber blamed freaking Helmut Marko for the Turkish GP crash with Vettel when every single person in Red Bull blamed him.
Mark Webber blamed the strategy for losing in Valencia when he lost second position to Alonso.
Mark Fucking Webber attacked Sutil once alleging he blocked him in qualifying in Bahrain to cover his poor performance when the 2 sectors before the incident he was lagging behind Vettel.
Mark Webber blamed the car mirrors for losing in Sepang 2010.

I can go on and on and on about fucking Webber. The only driver I truly hate.

If I were you I would forget Mark Webber because he will weaken your argument.
i didnt tell anything about Webber.. actually i told many times on different topics what i think about Webber already..
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i didnt tell anything about Webber.. actually i told many times on different topics what i think about Webber already..
You mentioned Malaysia so I thought you're taking about him.
Good to know we agree on something then 👍

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He's a snake and as a Ferrari fan I'm trying really hard to like him.
Mate . A snake ? Honestly , I just LMFAO !

Love SEB , but at that moment I hated him for a while
Side note : I will hate Ocon forever. I'm sick when I see his face .That dude is a saboteur !
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You mentioned Malaysia so I thought you're taking about him.
Good to know we agree on something then 👍
hehe im just here to take my daily dose of shitting on Vettel thats all..
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Mate . A snake ? Honestly , I just LMFAO !

Love SEB , but at that moment I hated him for a while
Side note : I will hate Ocon forever. I'm sick when I see his face .That dude is a saboteur !
Lol poor Ocon didn't have a chance to driver yet 😂
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Lol poor Ocon didn't have a chance to driver yet 😂
Sounds like a curse to me . Good !
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Sepang 2013. Webber is by far the saltiest person to ever step a foot in paddock! He is a loser who spent all his years partnering Vettel giving excuses and blaming others and multi map 21 was the only time he was right to blame someone else. (Although Seb was much faster).
Mark Webber took out Kovalainin and blamed him.
Mark Webber WIPED out Massa and blamed the kerbs for the crash although on-boards show it's him who steered more when the car oversteered.
Mark Webber blamed freaking Helmut Marko for the Turkish GP crash with Vettel when every single person in Red Bull blamed him.
Mark Webber blamed the strategy for losing in Valencia when he lost second position to Alonso.
Mark Fucking Webber attacked Sutil once alleging he blocked him in qualifying in Bahrain to cover his poor performance when the 2 sectors before the incident he was lagging behind Vettel.
Mark Webber blamed the car mirrors for losing in Sepang 2010.

I can go on and on and on about fucking Webber. The only driver I truly hate.

If I were you I would forget Mark Webber because he will weaken your argument.
Definitely. I've always though Weber to be one of the biggest crashers of all time. I never understood how more people weren't pissed at him. He's a charismatic guy and is doing well in retirement in front of the camera. I guess that's why.

On Seb... He's not what he used to be.
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Definitely. I've always though Weber to be one of the biggest crashers of all time. I never understood how more people weren't pissed at him. He's a charismatic guy and is doing well in retirement in front of the camera. I guess that's why.

On Seb... He's not what he used to be.
He's definitely not but he's still great.
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i didnt get my daily dose of shitting on Vettel today..
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