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      10-05-2020, 10:42 AM   #111
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If they can create the older model if the moon landing ship by armstrong. And maybe even upgrade the parts on it, we can all be chillin on the moon by now. It just takes some of the older guys that did the moon mission to get files or notebooks or maybe engineers. We shouldve been at pluto by now, we got to the moon in the 70s idknow why we struggling to shoot rockets up.
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Not to reprise my comment from the other thread a few months ago, but in simple terms, it would cost the same or more to go backwards in technological time to the 1960s to redevelop the Apollo space program rather than jump forward. The technologies, techniques, and machine tools used to build Apollo-era spacecraft no longer exist and the people who developed the technology are no longer alive, or are of an advanced age that their contributions would be detrimental to the effort.

Modern space exploration needs technology to move forward and the mission is different than the 1960s era programs. The Space Program is well past Pluto already. Google the Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 programs to see their status. Voyager is the farthest man-made object from the sun and is in interstellar space. New Horizons flew by Pluto in 2015.

Putting humans on other planets is slightly difficult... NASA explored the solar system using autonomous spacecraft and planetary rovers in advance of human landings just as they did with the moon. The spacecraft technology shifted away from manned flight to autonomous programs as a consequence.

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You're still with this question?

Not to reprise my comment from the other thread a few months ago, but in simple terms, it would cost the same or more to go backwards in technological time to the 1960s to redevelop the Apollo space program rather than jump forward. The technologies, techniques, and machine tools used to build Apollo-era spacecraft no longer exist and the people who developed the technology are no longer alive, or are of an advanced age that their contributions would be detrimental to the effort.

Modern space exploration needs technology to move forward and the mission is different than the 1960s era programs. The Space Program is well past Pluto already. Google the Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 programs to see their status. Voyager is the farthest man-made object from the sun and is in interstellar space. New Horizons fley by Pluto in 2015.

Putting humans on other planets is slightly difficult...
Only if you want them alive.
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Only if you want them alive.
True 'dat.
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Only if you want them alive.
"...and return them safely to the Earth" was a requirement in Kennedy's moon speech.

In case you have never read it, Presidential speech-writer William Safire wrote a really moving speech to be given by President Nixon in the event that Armstrong/Aldrin were stuck on the moon:

https://www.space.com/26604-apollo-1...on-speech.html

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Fate has ordained that the men who went to the moon to explore in peace will stay on the moon to rest in peace.

These brave men, Neil Armstrong and Edwin Aldrin, know that there is no hope for their recovery. But they also know that there is hope for mankind in their sacrifice.

These two men are laying down their lives in mankind's most noble goal: the search for truth and understanding.

They will be mourned by their families and friends; they will be mourned by their nation; they will be mourned by the people of the world; they will be mourned by a Mother Earth that dared send two of her sons into the unknown.

In their exploration, they stirred the people of the world to feel as one; in their sacrifice, they bind more tightly the brotherhood of man.

In ancient days, men looked at stars and saw their heroes in the constellations.

In modern times, we do much the same, but our heroes are epic men of flesh and blood.

Others will follow, and surely find their way home. Man's search will not be denied. But these men were the first, and they will remain the foremost in our hearts.

For every human being who looks up at the moon in the nights to come will know that there is some corner of another world that is forever mankind.
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First, hello! My name is Tom and I'm new here. But I was very interested in this thread. Therefore, I would like to join the discussions.

You express the idea that such a space program could be even more expensive.

Let me disagree.

Yes, the programs of the space race era were amazing for the time. And there is no doubt that all participants in past events have made a significant contribution to the development of space technologies.

But in our time, communication between scientists and researchers from different countries and companies is much more developed. Also, the space companies themselves are now much larger.

Access to information plus access to the exchange of experience could give us in the near future even more interesting and useful programs for exploring the depths of outer space.

Would you agree that the minds of today's scientists are no worse than the minds of scientists of the past?

Imagine what opportunities might open up with the open collaboration of many large and small space companies. For example, just for example, if SpaceX, Blue Origin, Nasa and a dozen other companies that are less powerful financially, but no less powerful intellectually, join forces

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